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Ogrebane1 wrote:are cyborg bodies generaly lighter for smaller races like gnomes and heavier for giants as i believe they should be. if so what is the weight difference? thank-you

Small cyborgs are lighter than their larger models, but heavier than the races they represent. As for the actual weight difference, I don't know off-hand, and it will be hours before I can get home to check the books.

But I'd guess at an order of magnitude (x10) as a good range.
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~I don't believe that there are any race specific cyborgs, with almost all borgs having a human base. There are many different models, and you could always have a custom gnome borg that is the same size as the original race.
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Let's see, RUE says that Full Conversion Combat Cyborgs weigh 1000 lbs, on average, with smaller 'borgs weighing 20-30% less. I gather that the "smaller" cyborgs thus referenced are simply more petite, but still human-sized (such as non-combat 'borgs, Russian light machines, and some of the Japanese and Chinese combat 'borgs), rather than gnome-borgs, dwarf-borgs, flooper-borgs, and so forth.

That figure of 1000 lbs is something like 666.667% heavier than the average unaugmented human (based on the typical human weight range of 100-200 lbs., according to PF2, p. 289), so one may infer that cyborgs of smaller races should be commensurately lighter, assuming that they follow the same design philosophy. Thus, a gnome full conversion combat cyborg would weigh approximately 233 lbs. on average.

On the other hand, one might imagine that there is a point of diminishing returns, where it is simply not practical or not nearly as effective to make bionic body parts so small. These pint-sized cyborgs may instead have only conventional cybernetics, without great strength or armor enhancement, and with significantly reduced weight. By this logic, then, a gnome cyborg might not be significantly heavier than an unaugmented gnome.
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:-o in a full conversion borg, the only original parts are the brain, maybe a few organs, so i'd say it doesn't matter what size the orignal race was, they can be whatever size they want. even a human could have himself installed in a 30 foot tall body if they wanted.

presumably there is a lower limit, IE: "big enough to fit the brain and possible other intact organs."
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