Undead Slayer PPE

Ted Smythe · Unread post by **Ted Smythe** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:58 pm

I have a couple questions about converting undead slayers the Yin-Sloth Jungles book to the second edition rules: How much PPE do they start with? How much do they get each level? Where is this written down?

Eryk Stormbright · Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:06 pm

from what i've read on the boards here they have someone working on a second ed Yin-Sloth Jungles book. as to when it's suppost to be out is anyones guess though.

Shawn Merrow · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:07 am

Eryk Stormbright wrote:from what i've read on the boards here they have someone working on a second ed Yin-Sloth Jungles book. as to when it's suppost to be out is anyones guess though.

It was turned in a little over a year ago. As for the answer to the question don't think I'm allowed to give out what's in the book, sorry.

Eryk Stormbright · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:11 am

any idea when the book is supposed to be released?

Shawn Merrow · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:18 am

Eryk Stormbright wrote:any idea when the book is supposed to be released?

No, idea at this point but hopefully soon.

Reagren Wright · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:23 am

I can't remember if it was in a Rifter or in the question & answer
section of the board, but something said 3D4x10 + P.E. attribute. Plus
2D6 per level. I can only hope if and when 2nd edition comes out these
guys special abilities are given a good 2nd clarification.

Eryk Stormbright · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:25 am

yeah that would be nice, i know Alot of people have been waiting for this book for years, myself included.

drewkitty ~..~ · Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:29 am

Misfit KotLD wrote:Undead Slayers or Undead Hunters?

I'm pretty sure he means undead hunters, since he mentions yin-sloth.

What you do is take the Wizard PPE base and use the offically updated spells from back of rifter 21.

Ted Smythe · Unread post by **Ted Smythe** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:32 am

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Misfit KotLD wrote:Undead Slayers or Undead Hunters?

I'm pretty sure he means undead hunters, since he mentions yin-sloth.

What you do is take the Wizard PPE base and use the offically updated spells from back of rifter 21.

I did mean the Undead Hunter, but I could not find the answer because I was looking for Undead Slayers. Here is the answer:

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/questions/occ.html wrote:50. What should the P.P.E. base for the Undead Hunter in Yin Sloth Jungles be?
Answer: 3D4x10 + P.E. attribute plus 2D6 per level of experience

Shawn Merrow · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:10 pm

Ted Smythe wrote:I did mean the Undead Hunter, but I could not find the answer because I was looking for Undead Slayers. Here is the answer:

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/questions/occ.html wrote:50. What should the P.P.E. base for the Undead Hunter in Yin Sloth Jungles be?
Answer: 3D4x10 + P.E. attribute plus 2D6 per level of experience

Forgot we put that in the old FAQ. That is the same version that made it into the manuscript.

Library Ogre · Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:29 pm

Personally, I think it's way too high. Undead Hunters are portrayed as being lousy spellcasters, and they spend a large amount of time increasing their martial skill, not their magical talent. I'd say 1D6*10+PE.

Library Ogre · Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:45 pm

Misfit KotLD wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:Personally, I think it's way too high. Undead Hunters are portrayed as being lousy spellcasters, and they spend a large amount of time increasing their martial skill, not their magical talent. I'd say 1D6*10+PE.

They can cast a lot of lousy spells?

Pretty much. It would mean that their more powerful spells require aid, or experience, but it wouldn't make them powerhouses.

Natasha · Unread post by **Natasha** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:00 pm

Mark Hall wrote:
Misfit KotLD wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:Personally, I think it's way too high. Undead Hunters are portrayed as being lousy spellcasters, and they spend a large amount of time increasing their martial skill, not their magical talent. I'd say 1D6*10+PE.

They can cast a lot of lousy spells?

Pretty much. It would mean that their more powerful spells require aid, or experience, but it wouldn't make them powerhouses.

May consider keeping these guys relegated to spells per day instead of P.P.E.

Northern Ranger · Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:48 pm

For once, and this is a little painful to admit, I find myself disagreeing with Mister Hall! I think the stated amount of PPE fits nicely for the Undead Hunter. It's already a great deal lower than the wizard (and a number of other OCC's), and I think it would limit them adequately. Plus, who's to say what kind of changes Mr. Merrow put in when he upgraded them to 2E? I'll reserve final judgement until I see the work, but it sounds about right from I what I know of the 1st Ed. version.

(Still think you're the greatest Mark!) :lol:

Natasha · Unread post by **Natasha** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:53 pm

If I disagree with Mark, then it's time for a little self-defenestration therapy.

:lol:

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:24 pm

Northern Ranger wrote:For once, and this is a little painful to admit, I find myself disagreeing with Mister Hall! I think the stated amount of PPE fits nicely for the Undead Hunter. It's already a great deal lower than the wizard (and a number of other OCC's), and I think it would limit them adequately. Plus, who's to say what kind of changes Mr. Merrow put in when he upgraded them to 2E? I'll reserve final judgement until I see the work, but it sounds about right from I what I know of the 1st Ed. version.

(Still think you're the greatest Mark!)

No! You cannot disagree with me! I am always right! I AM INVINCIBLE!

sasha · Unread post by **sasha** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:13 pm

Natasha wrote:If I disagree with Mark, then it's time for a little self-defenestration therapy.

I'd fly back all the way to America just to see that. Video wouldn't be good enough. :lol:

Northern Ranger · Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:26 pm

Mark Hall wrote:
Northern Ranger wrote:For once, and this is a little painful to admit, I find myself disagreeing with Mister Hall! I think the stated amount of PPE fits nicely for the Undead Hunter. It's already a great deal lower than the wizard (and a number of other OCC's), and I think it would limit them adequately. Plus, who's to say what kind of changes Mr. Merrow put in when he upgraded them to 2E? I'll reserve final judgement until I see the work, but it sounds about right from I what I know of the 1st Ed. version.

(Still think you're the greatest Mark!)

No! You cannot disagree with me! I am always right! I AM INVINCIBLE!

Why am I all of a sudden seeing a vision of Mr. Nexx spouting "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

drewkitty ~..~ · Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:59 pm

Shawn Merrow wrote:
Forgot we put that in the old FAQ. That is the same version that made it into the manuscript.

Which manuscript? YinSloth 2nd ed? or Mysteries of Magic?

As for the one spell per day limitation, my UH chars have a one spell per melee limitation.

Shawn Merrow · Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:26 pm

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Shawn Merrow wrote:
Forgot we put that in the old FAQ. That is the same version that made it into the manuscript.

Which manuscript? YinSloth 2nd ed? or Mysteries of Magic?

As for the one spell per day limitation, my UH chars have a one spell per melee limitation.

Yin-Sloth Jungles 2nd

Vidynn · Unread post by **Vidynn** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:27 pm

Robyn Stott wrote:The amount Shawn and I listed did seem very appropriate at the time for the Undead Hunter.

it still is okay, we used it in a game and it worked just fine.

drewkitty ~..~ · Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:20 pm

Shawn Merrow wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Shawn Merrow wrote:
Forgot we put that in the old FAQ. That is the same version that made it into the manuscript.

Which manuscript? YinSloth 2nd ed? or Mysteries of Magic?

As for the one spell per day limitation, my UH chars have a one spell per melee limitation.

Yin-Sloth Jungles 2nd

Any estimate on when it will be published? (this year or next year or don't hold breath?)

Shawn Merrow · Unread post by **Shawn Merrow** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:37 pm

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Shawn Merrow wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Shawn Merrow wrote:
Forgot we put that in the old FAQ. That is the same version that made it into the manuscript.

Which manuscript? YinSloth 2nd ed? or Mysteries of Magic?

As for the one spell per day limitation, my UH chars have a one spell per melee limitation.

Yin-Sloth Jungles 2nd

Any estimate on when it will be published? (this year or next year or don't hold breath?)

I have no idea.