Japanese mechs

Marcantony · Unread post by **Marcantony** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:31 am

Art from FASA's failed attempt at the Japanese market;
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jandrese/jbt/

I posted it here because it might inspire some of you to create new mechs for Robotech.

Rimmerdal · Unread post by **Rimmerdal** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:50 am

Marcantony wrote:Art from FASA's failed attempt at the Japanese market;
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jandrese/jbt/

I posted it here because it might inspire some of you to create new mechs for Robotech.

I like a few of the designs..they look a lot like Sentinal/REF designs.

Ice Dragon · Unread post by **Ice Dragon** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:17 pm

Marcantony wrote:Art from FASA's failed attempt at the Japanese market;
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jandrese/jbt/

I posted it here because it might inspire some of you to create new mechs for Robotech.

Doesn't surprise me, that FASA failed with these mechs in Japan :lol:

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Rimmerdal · Unread post by **Rimmerdal** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:56 pm

Ice Dragon wrote:
Marcantony wrote:Art from FASA's failed attempt at the Japanese market;
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jandrese/jbt/

I posted it here because it might inspire some of you to create new mechs for Robotech.

Doesn't surprise me, that FASA failed with these mechs in Japan .

They didn't look like transformers or Godzilla. :lol:

!!!

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:58 pm

I like quite a bit of the new styles to the Mechs. I can definately see them as Stingers or modifications to existing mecha in Robotech - if a GM allowed.

Rimmerdal · Unread post by **Rimmerdal** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:35 pm

Tiree wrote:I like quite a bit of the new styles to the Mechs. I can definately see them as Stingers or modifications to existing mecha in Robotech - if a GM allowed.

A few even look like decent power armour or Exo-suits a human can wear.

Ice Dragon · Unread post by **Ice Dragon** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:48 pm

Zazshann wrote:Wow...brings back the days (three if I remember correctly) that I played Battletech. I picked it up thinking it was a tabletop spinoff of Robotech...I wasn't that far off.

Most of the 3D pieces were direct ripoffs of the robotech mechs; Warhammer=Excalibur, Stinger VF-1, Marauder = Officers pod, locust = battle pod, Phoenix Hawk = Super VF-1...I think I'm forgetting a few.

I ended up scrapping the game and using the figurines for my Robotech games as visual aids.

The artwork for the ones that aren't direct ripoffs are pretty decent though, and would make interesting destroids.

Agreed, the look was what hooked meup with Battletech.

Rabid Southern Cross Fan · Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:06 am

Hmmm....

a few items, small arms and vehicles, look like they were inspired by Southern Cross and Mospeada vehicles and weapons. Of course, that is normal since danged few anime actually have totally original designs.

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:50 pm

Looks alot like Hevy Gear Designs.

Tinker Dragoon · Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:31 pm

Considering that all the above art was done by Studio Nue, I think it fits in to Robotech quite well visually.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:11 am

they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

GundamChief · Unread post by **GundamChief** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:49 am

Oh wow!

I've lost this site awhile back, thanx!

Rimmerdal · Unread post by **Rimmerdal** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:23 pm

Basara_549 wrote:Then there are the "II-C" mechs from the original version of the 3055 tech readout, that are different from the ones on that page, but intended as the Clan reworks of the "old" mechs.

The color plates have VMI (Victor) copyrights on them, also indicating a Japanese source, but I'm not sure if there's a direct tie to Studio Nue there or not. Anyone got a link to them?

Interestingly enough, one of the 3055 II-C mechs was a Battletech original (the Jenner II-C), and another Clan mech there, the Behemoth, was originally in Battledroids (the predecessor to BT before Lucas got copyright-happy) as an attempt to make the HWR-00 Mk II as a 100 ton mech. The original mini from that era of the game resembles a Robotech Strike Force "Mini-MAC", only with a turret on top instead of the missile tubes. The 3055 version looks nice, sort of like the offspring of a MAC III and a Glaug, but with much smoother lines. The backstory of the Behemoth was that it was supposed to be the assault mech evolution of the Marauder family of mechs.

They all look alike now a days...

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:16 am

Gomen_Nagai wrote:they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

Just the style.

Cyclone · Unread post by **Cyclone** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:10 pm

The 3055 IIC mechs images are actually art from the Japanese version of the Super Famicon (aka SNES) Mechwarrior game, the updated mode 7 version of the classic PC 3D wireframe Mechwarrior game, released in Japan by VMI.

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:13 am

Cyclone wrote:The 3055 IIC mechs images are actually art from the Japanese version of the Super Famicon (aka SNES) Mechwarrior game, the updated mode 7 version of the classic PC 3D wireframe Mechwarrior game, released in Japan by VMI.

not updated... altered to save FASA's @$$ from a heafty lawsuit from multiple anime companies.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:41 am

Zer0 Kay wrote:
Gomen_Nagai wrote:they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

Just the style.

no, it was by the same studio , it's the same artwork. FASA did not own the copyright to the images.

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:08 am

Gomen_Nagai wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Gomen_Nagai wrote:they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

Just the style.

no, it was by the same studio , it's the same artwork. FASA did not own the copyright to the images.

?? What does FASA have to do with Mekton Zeta? Your previous comment says they used the art in Mekton Zeta. My comment meant that R. Talsorian just used anime style. I have never seen a straight out copy like FASA did with the original Battletech.

Cyclone · Unread post by **Cyclone** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:46 am

Zer0 Kay wrote:
Cyclone wrote:The 3055 IIC mechs images are actually art from the Japanese version of the Super Famicon (aka SNES) Mechwarrior game, the updated mode 7 version of the classic PC 3D wireframe Mechwarrior game, released in Japan by VMI.

not updated... altered to save FASA's @$$ from a heafty lawsuit from multiple anime companies.

Well, I meant updated in the sense it used the the then new wiz-bang technology advance that was Mode 7, and the fact it was released about 5 years after the original PC version.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:21 am

the japanese " battlemech" were licensed by R Tal for art in Mekton Zeta at the same time the Z gundam in the Mekton Logo was licensed...

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:15 am

Gomen_Nagai wrote:the japanese " battlemech" were licensed by R Tal for art in Mekton Zeta at the same time the Z gundam in the Mekton Logo was licensed...

That is funny I don't recall any of the R. Tal stuff saying that. How bout a ref? I don't recall any of the R. Tal mechs being out right copies of any anime mechs either, care to provide a ref for that? Even their mech file book had simularities to a lot of anime but they were no where near the outright copying that FASA did.

Tinker Dragoon · Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:08 pm

Perhaps he meant Mekton II.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:41 am

wow. you must not know gundam or only know it from the video games.

that is the Shine Gundam.

Mike Taylor · Unread post by **Mike Taylor** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:51 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Gomen_Nagai wrote:they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

Just the style.

no, it was by the same studio , it's the same artwork. FASA did not own the copyright to the images.

Can you point us to specific books and pages? Something doesn't sound right here.

Mike Taylor · Unread post by **Mike Taylor** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:44 pm

Just got an e-mail back from R Talsorian today asking about this supposed reuse of Japanese BattleTech artwork. It has never happened. However, Mobile Suit Gundam artist Kunio Okawara was contracted to do several of the Mekton covers in the past, hence the Gundam-like mecha.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:57 pm

As cool as the Japanese versions look, I can't help but think looking at the Japanese version of the Vindicator that it would make a great Malcontent Stinger....it looks like a reinforced Regult body on two Male Power Armor legs, a Power Armor arm(with grafted-on laser, though a Female power armor arm would have such built-in and have a longer reach besides), a particle beam cannon (salvaged from an Excalibur or other source), and a VF-1A head stuck on...Plenty of internal space for passengers, addedarmor, ammo storage for the missile launcher....

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:08 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:they used the art in Mekton Zeta too.

Nope just simular styles to several different artists. However, they are no where near the duplication FASA did with macross and their other non-original "original" art works.

TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:21 am

i posted these Battletech pics on RPG.net awhile back.

Alot of good artwork went into the Japaneese Battletech book.
I wish more made it into the american books...

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