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Psi hound+Kill hound=?

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I was reading the Lone Star entry on Kill hounds this evening and started to wonder, how would you handle the offspring of a Dog boy and a Kill hound?

There are females of both types, and some go feral, so it's possible to get a mated pair consisting of one of each, but Dog boys get some stat bonuses due to being a certain breed, while kill hounds get a fixed set of fairly stout physical stats, plus some decreases in mental stats.

Would the offspring get a somewhat decreased version of the kill hound package? or a Psi hound package with a few bonuses to PS and such, plus a chance of being a berserker?

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More than likely, for Game "Balance" Purposes, you'd be pretty much limited to the standard complement of Powers and Abilities of either one Dog Boy type or the other, but probably not both.
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cornholioprime wrote:More than likely, for Game "Balance" Purposes, you'd be pretty much limited to the standard complement of Powers and Abilities of either one Dog Boy type or the other, but probably not both.


Yeah, I definitely wouldn't combine the two, but I was thinking of splitting the difference, making a hound that was somewhat stronger and tougher then a normal psi hound, but not quite as smart, with a lesser chance of having the negative personality traits of a kill hound. (sloth, bloodlust, arrogance Ect.)

They both get the same Psi powers, so no problem there at least.
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Psi-hound + Kill Hound =...Psycho-Hound?

A hound with the capabilities of a normal psi-hound but with the physical abilities and personality of a kill-hound...scary!
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GundamChief wrote:Psi-hound + Kill Hound =...Psycho-Hound?

A hound with the capabilities of a normal psi-hound but with the physical abilities and personality of a kill-hound...scary!


Kill hounds already get all the same Psi powers as a Psi hound, they just don't use them as much.

What with all the berserking and clawing and biting and killing and eating and such...
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Zazshann wrote:I actually don't think it would actually ever happen in the wild. Think toy poodle (regular dog boy) trying to mate with a timberwolf (kill hound). More likely than not the dogboy would end up getting eaten.


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Seeing as the Kill Hounds are still experimental, and wickedly powerful, I'd suspect that they are currently being genetically engineered to be sterile in order to prevent a wild packs of psychotic monsters with supernatural strength from developing. . .









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Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
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Atramentus wrote:To steal someone else's response in another thread, out of the litter of puppies some would be normal Psi-Hounds and some would be Kill-Hounds.

Aren't a lot (I thought most) of Psi-Hounds sterilised genetically anyway?


They aren't sterilized, most of the new Psi hounds are produced by 'breeder' females, who are artificially inseminated with genetic material from males who have proven to be 'good dogs.'

There are also 'freeborn' dog boys, the result of matings between escaped males and females.

Good thought about the litter makeup.
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Jefffar wrote:Seeing as the Kill Hounds are still experimental, and wickedly powerful, I'd suspect that they are currently being genetically engineered to be sterile in order to prevent a wild packs of psychotic monsters with supernatural strength from developing. . .









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That is a good point, except that Lone Star states that PC 'freeborn' kill hounds are an option, so they aren't sterile.

not to say that they shouldn't be sterilized, but...
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Kalinda wrote:
That is a good point, except that Lone Star states that PC 'freeborn' kill hounds are an option, so they aren't sterile.

not to say that they shouldn't be sterilized, but...


I didn't see the part about freeborn Kill Hounds, I'll give aother look.
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Kalinda wrote:I was reading the Lone Star entry on Kill hounds this evening and started to wonder, how would you handle the offspring of a Dog boy and a Kill hound?


That's easy. You'd get a Psi-Hound with the mutations of Super Predator (71-75) and/or Supernatural Endurance (81-85), as seen in Lone Star, pg. 38. Also the hybrid would probably have half to two-thirds the normal lifespan.
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Lone Star says that packs of freeborn dog boys range from 20-200(approx. IIRC) and that Kill Hounds packs are rarely larger than 20, although there are much larger packs of various kinds of mutant animals, including kill hounds, battle cats and ursua warriors. This mega-packs are still mainly dog boys though and I can see a lot of interbreeding going on.

Like wild dogs I think the biggest and most powerful dog would reproduce the most and pass down these dominant genes, so within a few generations we may see feral dogboys that are slightly larger, stronger and less obedient to humans, although they would still technially be dogboy RCCs.
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Kalinda wrote:
Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
SOME Kill Hounds DO have Supernatural Strength. You're still right about the MDC though......
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cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
SOME Kill Hounds DO have Supernatural Strength. You're still right about the MDC though......


I believe you're thinking of Kill cats, who have a 33% chance to have supernatural PS. If there is mention of Kill hounds getting SU PS I didn't see it in the description of them.
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Dead Boy wrote:
Kalinda wrote:I was reading the Lone Star entry on Kill hounds this evening and started to wonder, how would you handle the offspring of a Dog boy and a Kill hound?


That's easy. You'd get a Psi-Hound with the mutations of Super Predator (71-75) and/or Supernatural Endurance (81-85), as seen in Lone Star, pg. 38. Also the hybrid would probably have half to two-thirds the normal lifespan.


That's a pretty good thought Dead boy, I'll have to make a couple of characters using that and see how they come out... 8-)
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Kalinda wrote:
cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
SOME Kill Hounds DO have Supernatural Strength. You're still right about the MDC though......


I believe you're thinking of Kill cats, who have a 33% chance to have supernatural PS. If there is mention of Kill hounds getting SU PS I didn't see it in the description of them.
Yep.

You got me...sort of.

Kill Hounds can lift 100X times their P.S; I incorrectly identified that as Supernatural Strength or its rough equivalent.

Imagine that!! A Kill Hound can be as STRONG as a Supernatural Creature but apparently still CANNOT cause Supernatural P.S. Damage......weird....
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cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
SOME Kill Hounds DO have Supernatural Strength. You're still right about the MDC though......


I believe you're thinking of Kill cats, who have a 33% chance to have supernatural PS. If there is mention of Kill hounds getting SU PS I didn't see it in the description of them.
Yep.

You got me...sort of.

Kill Hounds can lift 100X times their P.S; I incorrectly identified that as Supernatural Strength or its rough equivalent.

Imagine that!! A Kill Hound can be as STRONG as a Supernatural Creature but apparently still CANNOT cause Supernatural P.S. Damage......weird....


Odd how that works isn't it?

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Kalinda wrote:
cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
cornholioprime wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Tyciol wrote:I'm thinking that the supernatural strength and MDC of the violent kill-hounds would make mating quite impossible.

The female Psi-hounds wouldn't live to conceive.
The male Psi-hounds wouldn't survive the experience in time to finish it.


Um, right, except that Kill hounds don't have supernatural strength or MDC.
SOME Kill Hounds DO have Supernatural Strength. You're still right about the MDC though......


I believe you're thinking of Kill cats, who have a 33% chance to have supernatural PS. If there is mention of Kill hounds getting SU PS I didn't see it in the description of them.
Yep.

You got me...sort of.

Kill Hounds can lift 100X times their P.S; I incorrectly identified that as Supernatural Strength or its rough equivalent.

Imagine that!! A Kill Hound can be as STRONG as a Supernatural Creature but apparently still CANNOT cause Supernatural P.S. Damage......weird....


Odd how that works isn't it?

"OK, I can lift stuff just fine, but every time I try to punch someone I feel all weak. What's wrong with me doc?" :-?

"I'm afraid you have a severe case of Game Balance." :|

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