Pistol with SDC and MDC damage options

[Faceless Dude]

Ok, fellow Rifters... you are my last hope! I'm trying to get ready for a new campaign I'm playing in, and I'm missing an item.

I've sifted through all of the books that I own (which is most of them!!), but I've not found what I'm looking for.

Somewhere or other, I know I've seen this, is a pistol that has dual settings. One setting that does SDC damage and one setting that does MDC damage.

So for all of you weapon-masters out there... can you give me a reference?

Thanks, Rifters!! You (and this game) are all epic covered in awesome sauce!!

the one that I KNOW of is in Rifts Underseas (WB7). It's the new navy M-2011 energy pistol. 1d4x10 sd or 3d6 MD per blast

[Dustin Fireblade]

There is also the newer Wilks 101 found in Merc Ops.

[Pepsi Jedi]

There's one in the rifter about New Chillichote (How ever it's spelled))

An entire company that caters to the person in rifts earth that wants some self defence with out needing military "I wanna blow up a tank" application. A pistol had sdc and minor MD ability.

[The Galactus Kid]

Triax weapons locker in Rifter #51 has a pistol that might fit your needs.

[rat_bastard]

Juicer uprising has a pistol shotgun that would fit the bill.

[jaymz]

MP-10 in Mercenaries as well if you use Ramjet rounds....

[Pepsi Jedi]

Seems like there's all sorts of options.

[Faceless Dude]

My personal favorite tactic is to get an MDC replica of a common pistol, Glock, Beretta, whatever. Then use either standard ammo, silver bullets, ramjets, or, for a decent MD alternative, Wilks CFT bullets. Is a lot more versatile than carrying around 2 different weapons and allows you a good chance to smuggle what amounts to a military- grade pistol into a controlled terriorty. After all, how many times does someone check ammo that you're carrying in?

[Pepsi Jedi]

My personal favorite tactic is to get an MDC replica of a common pistol, Glock, Beretta, whatever. Then use either standard ammo, silver bullets, ramjets, or, for a decent MD alternative, Wilks CFT bullets. Is a lot more versatile than carrying around 2 different weapons and allows you a good chance to smuggle what amounts to a military- grade pistol into a controlled terriorty. After all, how many times does someone check ammo that you're carrying in?

In a setting where you can do that, any time someone checks for a normal pistol, they're going to take yours, if it's SD or MDC.

[Zer0 Kay]

My personal favorite tactic is to get an MDC replica of a common pistol, Glock, Beretta, whatever. Then use either standard ammo, silver bullets, ramjets, or, for a decent MD alternative, Wilks CFT bullets. Is a lot more versatile than carrying around 2 different weapons and allows you a good chance to smuggle what amounts to a military- grade pistol into a controlled terriorty. After all, how many times does someone check ammo that you're carrying in?

Why would it need to be an MDC replica? All "SDC" weapons can fire ramjet rounds. Even if you do get an MDC replica that doesn't make the ammo cause MDC.

[Kagashi]

I see that you did specify a pistol, but just incase I wanted to point out that the JA-ll Juicer rifle has the SDC/MDC option. Pg 270 RUE.

Hmm...JP-11. Multi barreled pistol version of the rifle. Interesting.

[Zer0 Kay]

I see that you did specify a pistol, but just incase I wanted to point out that the JA-ll Juicer rifle has the SDC/MDC option. Pg 270 RUE.

Hmm...JP-11. Multi barreled pistol version of the rifle. Interesting.

except that if you shorten the barrel on a laser weapon it will have various effects. The barrel ususally isn't just a hollow tube... the laser doesn't need to be rifled after all. So if there is a barrel on a laser weapon it is likely all active laser medium/gain medium. The first problem is that you'll loose the output coupler which completely breaks the laser. If you have the skills or find someone that has them and they do cut and then put in a new output coupler then your overall gain will be reduced, so damage will be reduced. If not done correctly the beams cohesion may also be affected again reducing damage but also reducing range.

Also if you play your ion guns like a different version of a PBW then the barrel is probably part of the accelerator and shortening it will reduce range and damage. If you play your ion guns like a lightning gun, shortening the barrel shouldn't do much.

[Faceless Dude]

My personal favorite tactic is to get an MDC replica of a common pistol, Glock, Beretta, whatever. Then use either standard ammo, silver bullets, ramjets, or, for a decent MD alternative, Wilks CFT bullets. Is a lot more versatile than carrying around 2 different weapons and allows you a good chance to smuggle what amounts to a military- grade pistol into a controlled terriorty. After all, how many times does someone check ammo that you're carrying in?

Why would it need to be an MDC replica? All "SDC" weapons can fire ramjet rounds. Even if you do get an MDC replica that doesn't make the ammo cause MDC.

Putting CFT rounds into a regular pistol will more than likely blow the gun up. 65% chance the gun will explode and do double damage to the shooter. Pistol made of MDC materials prevents this.

[Kagashi]

I see that you did specify a pistol, but just incase I wanted to point out that the JA-ll Juicer rifle has the SDC/MDC option. Pg 270 RUE.

Hmm...JP-11. Multi barreled pistol version of the rifle. Interesting.

except that if you shorten the barrel on a laser weapon it will have various effects. The barrel ususally isn't just a hollow tube... the laser doesn't need to be rifled after all. So if there is a barrel on a laser weapon it is likely all active laser medium/gain medium.

Who said anything about rifling a laser barrel? No need to roll eyes... That is just rude.

The first problem is that you'll loose the output coupler which completely breaks the laser.

Tighten it down then. Seriously, if you are going to get all technical and start rolling your eyes, you should at least spell correctly.

If you have the skills or find someone that has them and they do cut and then put in a new output coupler then your overall gain will be reduced, so damage will be reduced. If not done correctly the beams cohesion may also be affected again reducing damage but also reducing range.

So? You have a lower powered laser. Big deal.

Also if you play your ion guns like a different version of a PBW then the barrel is probably part of the accelerator and shortening it will reduce range and damage. If you play your ion guns like a lightning gun, shortening the barrel shouldn't do much.

Again, so you have a lower powered ion blast. Pretty typical for a pistol version of the same technology. Not seeing an eye rolling post here.

Bottom line is, the original poster was looking for something that was a pistol that had both an MDC and SDC source of damage. What you described would still fit the bill. Even if you are using a single shot ballistic round for the SDC portion and the laser/ion for the MDC portion.

[G]

Perhaps you should just ask your GM to let you have an operator customize the pistol you want to use...the safety switch now has 3 options instead of two...

[Rimmer]

Gallant H-90, Robotech.

[Killer Cyborg]

Gallant H-90, Robotech.

[Zer0 Kay]

I see that you did specify a pistol, but just incase I wanted to point out that the JA-ll Juicer rifle has the SDC/MDC option. Pg 270 RUE.

Hmm...JP-11. Multi barreled pistol version of the rifle. Interesting.

except that if you shorten the barrel on a laser weapon it will have various effects. The barrel ususally isn't just a hollow tube... the laser doesn't need to be rifled after all. So if there is a barrel on a laser weapon it is likely all active laser medium/gain medium.

Who said anything about rifling a laser barrel? No need to roll eyes... That is just rude.

I'm not going to apologize for rolling my eyes in frustration over a lack of knowledge in lazer technology. I could understand particle weapons, ion (since it is pretty ambiguous what that actually is), and railguns, since they are new or future tech but lasers are old, as old as Tesla actually. So roll indeed. I didn't say that anyone did say anything about having to rifle the barrel, I said "The barrel ususally isn't just a hollow tube... the laser doesn't need to be rifled after all." What I mean, and obviously how it wasn't taken, is that the barrel has a function but it isn't hollow and it isn't rifled, as that would do nothing, so a hollow barrel would be completely useless and do nothing but add weight and length when that particular weapon (IF it had a hollow barrel) would be better served with a short barrel to make it more usefull in enclosed areas.

The first problem is that you'll loose the output coupler which completely breaks the laser.

Tighten it down then. Seriously, if you are going to get all technical and start rolling your eyes, you should at least spell correctly.
Yeah because spelling detracts from the correctness of the technical portion, you can't "tighten it down" the output coupler is a semi-opaque mirror adhered to one end of the lasing material.

If you have the skills or find someone that has them and they do cut and then put in a new output coupler then your overall gain will be reduced, so damage will be reduced. If not done correctly the beams cohesion may also be affected again reducing damage but also reducing range.

So? You have a lower powered laser. Big deal.
Cutting a rifle down to pistol size... is likely gonna end up giving you 1d6 and 2d6 at best and half range not to mention your cutting down the 7.62mm rifled barrel down which is going to reduce range... IRL for a rifled barrel accuracy as well.

Also if you play your ion guns like a different version of a PBW then the barrel is probably part of the accelerator and shortening it will reduce range and damage. If you play your ion guns like a lightning gun, shortening the barrel shouldn't do much.

Again, so you have a lower powered ion blast. Pretty typical for a pistol version of the same technology. Not seeing an eye rolling post here.
Nope no eye rolling here... pretty much on the lack of laser knowledge especially when information on lasers is easily obtainable.

Bottom line is, the original poster was looking for something that was a pistol that had both an MDC and SDC source of damage. What you described would still fit the bill. Even if you are using a single shot ballistic round for the SDC portion and the laser/ion for the MDC portion.
It would but it certainly doesn't rank an "interesting" in my book, but of course that is just my opinion. Besides a Glock 18 or a Skorpion VZ 61 which are both machine pistols. They can both use SD bullets and MD ramjet rounds and if you make DU Ramjet rounds a little more damage. Both the SD and the MD rounds can be coated with silver to make them more damaging. Now the funny thing with vampires taking damage is that a ramjet round is an SD round modified with a ramjet engine (solid fuel with a compressing nose intake that makes the air combust the fuel) and you can make an SD round out of DU and it just increases the damage, but it is still SD. So the strange thing is that even though it is technically 100s of SD that your doing, because the book lists it as MD you actually end up with lower damage to vampires with the DU Ramjet in silver than you do with standard rounds in silver.

Anyways it looks like you got a little hot under the collar and I do apologize for that but I do not apologize for my frustration.

[Zer0 Kay]

Gallant H-90, Robotech.

WITH the old burst rules not just but !!!!

[Kagashi]

Anyways it looks like you got a little hot under the collar and I do apologize for that but I do not apologize for my frustration.

You got frustrated off of a one line post and threw down an "I know more than you and you are an idiot because I assume you don't know what I'm talking about" post and took it out on me personally, with no provocation from me what-so-ever. That makes you a douche and lose credibility. Take that feedback and run with it.