Alternate Dimensions

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:37 am

Here is a site that has 234 military actions taken by the U.S. in the past. That's 234 (or more with ripple effect) chances of Alternate Dimensions/Histories. This is a good source for all us Alternate History buffs.

I included the summary from the site to peek interest. Enjoy

http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/foabroad.htm

Instances of Use of United States Forces Abroad, 1798 - 1993
by Ellen C. Collier, Specialist in U.S. Foreign Policy,
Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division
Washington DC: Congressional Research Service -- Library of Congress -- October 7, 1993
Summary
This report lists 234 instances in which the United States has used its armed forces abroad in situations of conflict or potential conflict or for other than normal peacetime purposes. It brings up to date a 1989 list that was compiled in part from various older lists and is intended primarily to provide a rough sketch survey of past U.S. military ventures abroad. A detailed description and analysis are not undertaken here.
The instances differ greatly in number of forces, purpose, extent of hostilities, and legal authorization. Five of the instances are declared wars: the War of 1812, the Mexican War of 1846, the Spanish American War of 1898, World War I declared in 1917, and World War II declared in 1941.
Some of the instances were extended military engagements that might be considered undeclared wars. These include the Undeclared Naval War with France from 1798 to 1800; the First Barbary War from 1801 to 1805; the Second Barbary War of 1815; the Korean War of 1950-53; the Vietnam War from 1964 to 1973; and the Persian Gulf War of 1991. In some cases, such as the Persian Gulf War against Iraq, Congress authorized the military action although it did not declare war.
The majority of the instances listed were brief Marine or Navy actions prior to World War II to protect U.S. citizens or promote U.S. interests. A number were actions against pirates or bandits. Some were events, such as the stationing of Marines at an Embassy or legation, which later were considered normal peacetime practice. Covert actions, disaster relief, and routine alliance stationing and training exercises are not included here, nor are the Civil and Revolutionary Wars and the continual use of U.S. military units in the exploration, settlement, and pacification of the West.

Plus, if you click on Wars and Conflict here or in the upper right hand corner at the site, it will lead you to even more historical conflicts for us to alternate to our little hearts content.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:04 am

Ouch...that's grist for alternate events...

bigbobsr6000 · Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:19 am

taalismn wrote:Ouch...that's grist for alternate events...

That is a lot of "matter of interest or value forming the basis of a story or analysis", isn't it?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:12 pm

Yep....

What if the war of 1812 saw the first use of dirigible airships by the British, after having similar weapons ('Montgolfiers') used against them during the continental campaigns in Europe?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:38 pm

I can see where those engagements could have changed the world we know. But of course every engagement has that chance.

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:51 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I can see where those engagements could have changed the world we know. But of course every engagement has that chance.

I know my engagement certainly changed my world as I knew it.

(Wife over shoulder.)

OH....and what a lovely change for the better it was. :hug:

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:13 pm

ROFLMAO!! That is a great one! Congrats! I still have to that sort of alternate universe changing event!

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:43 am

The Thin Worlds

As opposed to one world, this is actually somewhere around a few thousand worlds stacked very closely together. The closeness of these worlds makes each individual one somehow weaker. The first one you walk into seems very similar to Earth, circa 2008. If you spend too much time in one place, like for more than an hour within the same 500ft, you slip through to the next one.

The next world is a bit darker. The sunlight is a bit dimmer. People are a bit more pale. There are more cracks in the sidewalk. If the rift you stepped through is still there, it's a bit smaller now. People are also a bit more rude to you. The buildings are a bit more in disrepair.

If you stay too long in the same place again, you slip through into the next one. And the next one after that. And so on and so forth. Each time things just seem a little bit worse. A little closer to hell it seems. If you slip more than a hundred worlds down(which most people wouldn't since they'd be smart enough to leave), you'll start glimpsing things out of the corner of your eyes that would've made Lovecraft cringe.

After the first hundred worlds, you start slipping faster and faster down. It only takes a half hour to move down into the next world. Then twenty minutes. Then ten. After five hundred worlds, the sun is barely visible in the sky. People, if you can call them that, are little more than maggot ridden walking corpses. The streets are filled with rotten meat, strange giant insects, and debris. Animal and plant life is twisted, violent, and smells of ammonia mingled with sulfur.

Slipping further down is ill-advised.

Flash Freeze World

The temperature here is a brisk -100 farenheit at it's warmest. Whatever happened here, it happened fast. People still are on the streets, frozen in midstride. Buildings are covered with ice. Actually, pretty much the entire globe is covered in ice. It seems something happened to move earth out of orbit of the sun at an astonishing race that it's just sitting out in the middle of nowhere, frozen.

Factory Planet

The earth rumbles beneath your feet. The atmosphere has been stripped away, except for an omnipresent noxious smoke. There is no soil or water anywhere. Earth has been turned into a giant factory all manner of goods in an automated fashion. No matter where you turn, there is no visible life. Dotting the landscape are giant holes in the ground from which issue forth, every hour or so, gigantic space ships filled with rather mundane cargo heading for destinations unkown.

Hijacking a ship and investigating the cargo will only net a bunch of consumer electronics. Media players, television sets, personal music players, phones, etc... None of it is especially high tech though.

Roscoe Del'Tane · Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:42 am

Pong Planet: This world has only width and length, on depth at all, just like a giant version of Pong (hence the name). There is NO verticle movement possible, either up or down, and something as inconsequential as a stick or scratch in the dirt can prevent you from moving foreward (provided you can't pick it up/move it).

Pong Planet Mark Two: If you move faster than a quick walk and bump into a solid or (relatively) immovible object, you will be sent careening off at an oblique angle, loosing speed each time you strike another object (dead stop 3-6 bounces later). Padded suits and clothing becomes the rage, skimpy/revealing clothing is nonexistant.

This one might have been posted before, but meh, here it goes again.
Graveyard Planet: The psychic imptrint of EVERYBODY who has died in the last one-hundred years is bound to physical plane. Ghosts every five feet will give ya the heebie-geebies; but on the plus side, the violent crime rate plummets, as the decedent can most often finger their killer with ease.

LostOne · Unread post by **LostOne** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:32 am

MrTwist wrote:The Thin Worlds
If you spend too much time in one place, like for more than an hour within the same 500ft, you slip through to the next one.

I hope you don't like sleep. That's potentially 6-8 shifts a night, more as you shift farther down and the shifts happen faster. It would be impossible to reproduce since many/most pregnant women (like my wife was) fall asleep at the drop of a hat. Meaning there'd be no children born on the top levels. As more generations happen the entire population would shift lower as more and more reproducing women shift down and the people not shifting die off.

bigbobsr6000 · Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:01 am

LostOne wrote:
MrTwist wrote:The Thin Worlds
If you spend too much time in one place, like for more than an hour within the same 500ft, you slip through to the next one.

I hope you don't like sleep. That's potentially 6-8 shifts a night, more as you shift farther down and the shifts happen faster. It would be impossible to reproduce since many/most pregnant women (like my wife was) fall asleep at the drop of a hat. Meaning there'd be no children born on the top levels. As more generations happen the entire population would shift lower as more and more reproducing women shift down and the people not shifting die off.

I read one book where all the cities moved to keep in their sunlight all the time. Would that work?

Next option, it is not affected by sleep. Something about having to be awake triggers the "timer".

One could sleep on moving platforms that are never in the same 500ft radius in the same hour.

Just brain storming here. Nice concept just trying ideas to over come the whole sleep thing.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:42 pm

Those were some great alternate universes! Please keep them coming!

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:46 pm

LostOne wrote:
MrTwist wrote:The Thin Worlds
If you spend too much time in one place, like for more than an hour within the same 500ft, you slip through to the next one.

I hope you don't like sleep. That's potentially 6-8 shifts a night, more as you shift farther down and the shifts happen faster. It would be impossible to reproduce since many/most pregnant women (like my wife was) fall asleep at the drop of a hat. Meaning there'd be no children born on the top levels. As more generations happen the entire population would shift lower as more and more reproducing women shift down and the people not shifting die off.

Actually, the shifting only happens to visitors. The inhabitants of these dimensions stay where they are. Someone not from these worlds is more 'dense' than the universe can take for too long a time and that's why they slip through.

As I said in the description, these dimensions are just really close together and that's why the barriers between them are so thin. I wish I made it more clear that the people in these dimensions are made up of the same stuff and so don't fall through into the next one. Well, maybe sometimes they do, but it's not very common.

LostOne · Unread post by **LostOne** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:52 pm

MrTwist wrote:Actually, the shifting only happens to visitors. The inhabitants of these dimensions stay where they are. Someone not from these worlds is more 'dense' than the universe can take for too long a time and that's why they slip through.

As I said in the description, these dimensions are just really close together and that's why the barriers between them are so thin. I wish I made it more clear that the people in these dimensions are made up of the same stuff and so don't fall through into the next one. Well, maybe sometimes they do, but it's not very common.

That makes more sense then. Still, I hope our heroes don't like sleep.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:54 pm

That is a very cool idea! I like how strangers fall thru the dimensions. Would there be anyway to get back to the top? What happens if they reached the bottom? Do they go back to the beginning? Or do they succumb to death at the bottom?

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:47 pm

The UN limited it,s members to 50 countries.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:10 pm

That is an interesting idea. It would have made a very interesting post WW2 world!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:34 pm

Mars Needs Women!
And they're willing to pay good money for the mothers of a new generation of Martians!
Naturally, the world's divided as to what to do and how to react...
What happend to the Martians' own women?
Is it not the duty of every red-blooded man to defend Earth women?
Hey, it's our bodies, you apes!
How much are you offering?
Take my wife, please!
Do we get to try out the Martian men first?
You insult me with the insinuation I'd do THAT for money.
Hey, do we get our women back?
What about custody rights?

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:09 pm

Aramanthus wrote:That is a very cool idea! I like how strangers fall thru the dimensions. Would there be anyway to get back to the top? What happens if they reached the bottom? Do they go back to the beginning? Or do they succumb to death at the bottom?

I really hadn't thought of getting back up. I guess it would be possible, just difficult. The barriers between the dimensions are very weak so it's possible there are spots that lead back up. If you know what you're looking for, you might find a storefront that's kept up better than those around it. Walk into it, turn around, and you're a bit closer to the top. From there you could turn down the right street that isn't so full of cracked pavement.

When, and if, you reach the bottom you're pretty much in hell. You can't fall any further. You probably would be fighting for your life every second as the creatures that dwell there constantly attack. Hopefully the PC's rift out before they get even close.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:28 pm

MrTwist wrote:When, and if, you reach the bottom you're pretty much in hell. You can't fall any further. You probably would be fighting for your life every second as the creatures that dwell there constantly attack. Hopefully the PC's rift out before they get even close.

Sounds like certain parts of Hartford...
In which case, head for I-84 and head due west...You'll reach safety as soon as you reach Rattlesnake Mountain(look for the giant radio towers).

Roscoe Del'Tane · Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:51 am

Aggressive Restructuring (kinda 'borrowed' this one from a comedian): Every 5 years, those who wish to live in the USA are trucked over the Mexican boarder. They want back in, they gotta find a way past the guards and the military...

Piercing World: Status is displayed for all the world to see on your face, in the form of studs, rings, and hoops protruding from your skin. The lowest class of people will only have one or two, made out of lead or pewter, and the richest with more than a dozen made of gold and platinum.

Penelaty Piercings: Just the opposite of the above, the criminals are given massive piercings all across their faces and head, the more piercings, the more dangerous they are.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:38 am

Excellent alternate universes! Thank you for the quick answers MrTwist!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:15 pm

Blond becomes the official hair color of the United States...Sales of wigs, hair dyes, and treatments skyrocket....Being non-blonde in public means being looked down upon(much as a suspected minority) and, in certain parts of California, subject to legal penalty and legalized discrimination....

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:06 pm

And your skin has to be dark tanned. And the new official language of the U.S. is "Valley Talk" followed by "Text Message".

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:09 pm

Cellphone possession is MANDATORY...

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:20 pm

taalismn wrote:Cellphone possession is MANDATORY...

I have cellphone now. I have a roll left over from Christmas. I like the different see thru colors it comes in. Great for wraping sweets and fruit baskets in.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:58 pm

bigbobsr6000 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Cellphone possession is MANDATORY...

I have cellphone now. I have a roll left over from Christmas. I like the different see thru colors it comes in. Great for wraping sweets and fruit baskets in.

Alternate Earth(?)---Cellphone usage causes progressive mental deterioration and violent dementia...the industrialized world goes into nose-dive until mentally degenerate remanents of world industrial powers are hunted by Third World Will Smiths and diehard anti-cellphonists...a new legend about 'wizard stones' that destroy minds is developed as a precautionary tale...

See, it's already begun...

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:14 pm

What's begun, again? I can't remember.......HHmmmmm.....

(Knock, knock) Opens door: Oh, hello. How can I..

A short burst of machince gun fire. 'Target terminated.' leaves

My body lying dead bleeding on the floor....

Hey! Now if I can only get a message to myself in that dimension...What was I suppose to say....what's begun? I can't remember......HHmmmmm...

(Knock, knock) Opens door: Oh, hello. How can I..

A short burst of machince gun fire. 'Target terminated.' leaves

My body lying dead bleeding on the floor....

Hey! Now if I can only get a message to myself in those two dimensions..What was I suppose to say....what's begun? I can't remember......HHmmmmm...

(Knock, knock) Opens door: Oh, hello. How can I..

A short burst of machince gun fire. 'Target terminated.' leaves

My body lying dead bleeding on the floor....

Hey! Now if I can only get a message to myself in those three dimensions..What was I suppose to say....what's begun? I can't remember......HHmmmmm...

(Knock, knock) Opens door: Oh, hello. How can I..

A short burst of machince gun fire. 'Target terminated.' leaves

My body lying dead bleeding on the floor....

etc., etc., etc.,.....................??????

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:03 pm

ROFLMAO! Those are great!!! Please keep them coming! I'll post more later tonight. I'm off on a 210 miles trip!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:36 pm

'Memento' meets 'Groundhog Day'! :eek:

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:48 am

I was wondering where that came from!

Roscoe Del'Tane · Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:33 am

Countering the counterfitters: Instead of moving over to paper money, the U.S. stays with copper, silver and gold based money, keeping out monetary worth stable.

Sued Henson: Due to a freak accident at Henson Labs at the begining of his career, the Muppets are rendered sentient, but unable to move anything other than their eyes and mouths. And after the performers put them on, baaad things happen; Henson is sued for every penny he had, is put on the Sex-Offenders list (what else would you call a man who walks around sticking his hand up peoples backsides?), black-listed from the entertainment industry, and Seasame Street and the Muppets never take off.

Size DOES matter: All compititons are solved by the size of the contestants... unmentionable areas. Viagra and Wonderbra stick explode.

Alternitively, Dueling is made legal as a way for disputes to be mediated (though NOT to the death, non-lethal mean sonly). It has to be done in a government building, with at least three witnesses for both parties, as well as government officials. The one who wins the duel is considered the victor, and can dictate terms to the looser if they did not make a deal beforehand. Lawyers fall to the wayside, and swordsmen come out of the woodwork, as well as other martial-artists.

Okay, this one is a bit bloody, so keep that in mind.

Blood Brawl: Instead of life-imprisonment, the condemmed are sent to gladiator camps. They are trained up, and sent out to be slaughtered on live tv for entertainment.

Roscoe Del'Tane · Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:21 am

Okay, had another ambush of ideas after that last post, so here goes.

Super-Squirts: Children between the ages of puberty and un-assisted walking are the only ones who can possess super powers, leading to a near total overhaul of the worlds economy. School is no longer mandatory, but optional, candy is free, children can spank and punish adults, etc etc. Not only can children have super powers, but those powers aren't fixed, the subject can change their powers in the blink of an eye, with no drop in power levels (all children are considered to have level 10 experience with their powers).

Tactile Reproduction: Full-body spandex suits (think arachno-dude here, folks) are MANDATORY for everybody, it is not debatable and punishable by being thrown in jail. The reason for this is due to the fact that if two people even touch their skin together, they will both immediatley become pregnant. Note that each second they remain touching will result in one child, so the longer you remain in contact means more little goobers for ya in 9 months. Fortunatly, the birthing process has become much more streamlined, with both men and women having a 'flap' on their belly that will disgorge the child once it reaches maturity, with little to no mess or fuss (more of a 'whoo, here it is' kind of deal, really).

Nuclear economy: The properties of gold has been switched with uranium and plutonium. Gold is now highly radioactive and dealdy, used for military uses only, with the other two taken gold's place as the 'valuable' metal.

Bardless land: Song, or any type of music for that matter, is not physically possible in this world, the physics just aren't there. The human vocal cords aren't flexible enough to permit singing, they are far too fragile, and will tear if somebody raises their voice over a load conversational tone. Things don't resonate the way they should, meaning stringed instruments and percussion intstruments will make no noise (if for some reason one is made or introduced), and whistles simply make an annoying buzzing sound.

Ben Franklin was successful in lobbying to have the TURKEY made as the offical bird of the US, ruining thanksgiving for the rest of us. Phesants, ducks, chickens and others are used instead, and turkeys are quitely hated by the barnyard birds.

Rewiders: Once per decade, any person can step back to any point in in time, and freely interact with the past for one hour. History becomes a helpless jumble, as people loot and plunder histories artifacts, vie to become the 'first' to discover something, or to kill/prevent the deaths of important figures.

Psionic Ties: Each person is born with a tie to one animal in the world, and if they die, so does the animal, and vice versa. Hunting is immediatly outlawed, and the use of lethal force against an animal is only permitted if there is no other option. Humanity is stuck living in a few walled off cities full of vegan farmers.

Plant People: In this world, humatiy evolved from sentient trees, needing nothing more than sunlight and water to survive. They must, however, 'root' themselves to the ground one night a week in order to feed off of the soil. Beavers are quickly rounded up and killed, as well as termites and other wood eating bugs and vermin.

Permanant Marks: Any type of mark (other than bruising and cuts) that happens to somebody's skin, STAYS there forever, not even vanishing in death. This means inks, juice stains, and such, not mearly things like dirt and mud.

Reclusives: People cannot stand to be closer than 100 feet from another person. Every five feet closer they comes results in intense pyschological pressure as well as physical pain. Once a year this will let up for two hours, to allow people to come togther and, well, 'shtoink'. The children are immune to the pain, as well as the mothers, for the first five years of their life life, and then hits with the force of a bomb.

Roscoe Del'Tane · Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:21 am

I call upon the power of Taalisman's Redundency Hound! Come forth and FEAST upon the dregs of this multi-post!

MASTICATE! CHOMP! BELCH!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:14 am

Some truly utterly demented ideas there....

Oh, and here's the RH's favorite chew toy if you have any further need of him...(hands over Anne Coulter doll)

LostOne · Unread post by **LostOne** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:12 am

Roscoe Del'Tane wrote:Alternitively, Dueling is made legal as a way for disputes to be mediated (though NOT to the death, non-lethal mean sonly). It has to be done in a government building, with at least three witnesses for both parties, as well as government officials. The one who wins the duel is considered the victor, and can dictate terms to the looser if they did not make a deal beforehand. Lawyers fall to the wayside, and swordsmen come out of the woodwork, as well as other martial-artists.

Blood Brawl: Instead of life-imprisonment, the condemmed are sent to gladiator camps. They are trained up, and sent out to be slaughtered on live tv for entertainment.

You sir, are my new hero. Anything that decreases the number of lawyers in this country, as well as the number of inmates on death row filing appeal after appeal and sucking the money out of the country is a Good Thing(TM).

Vote for Roscoe Del'Tane for President 2008.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:14 pm

Reign of Peeps----Peeps are really the communal spawn of a massive alien intelligence out to conquer the Earth. Those who consume Peeps are doomed, on the day appointed by the Intelligence for its plan to swing into action, to become mind-reamed zombies, dripping white and yellow marshmallow goo from their mouths, noses, eyes, and ears, seeking out the un-Peeped and suffocating them in blobs of Peep-fluff...
Survivors immediately swear off sugary junkfoods, and in some holdout communities possessing a Jellybaby is cause to be shot immediately...

Roscoe Del'Tane · Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:08 pm

LostOne wrote:You sir, are my new hero. Anything that decreases the number of lawyers in this country, as well as the number of inmates on death row filing appeal after appeal and sucking the money out of the country is a Good Thing(TM).

Vote for Roscoe Del'Tane for President 2008.

Awww, I'm blushing! Seriously though, that was very, very close to what I actually feel should be done to the deathrow inmantes, and those who are never going to get out of jail. Either that or the should bring back the chain gangs, chain a black guy, a white guy, a and a mexican together in that order, and you'll never have to worry about escapees again (none of them would be able to work together long enough to get away).

On the other hand, I am hereby throwing my hat into the ring for consideration for nomination for Presidential potential. Anonymous internest posters should be the only ones available for government positions. OooH, that could be a good new dimension, unknnown government officials who never have to go into the office and stay cooped up in their apartments...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:58 pm

Well, you're insane, which is a good qualification for WANTING to be President...

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:10 pm

Any historical figure wasn't even born. That would set up a ripple effect thru time. Lincoln not born. Thomas Edison, Genghis Khan, JFK, Mao Tse Tung, etc.

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:40 pm

ash_wednesday wrote:
bigbobsr6000 wrote:Any historical figure wasn't even born. That would set up a ripple effect thru time. Lincoln not born. Thomas Edison, Genghis Khan, JFK, Mao Tse Tung, etc.

Only problem with that would other new Historical figures would be born instead that would had replaced them. The timeline would be a bit different but the effects would be the same.

Are you saying that if these examples I have given were never born, someone else would take their place and do the same? So as to have little or affect on the timeline?

How so?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:04 pm

A means of verifying absolute TRUTH, beyond all possible doubts, is developed/discovered...resulting in a complete upheaval of the legal system...most lawyers are automatically out of a job, except for those arguing the constitutionality of government 'fishing' with the verification means. The means is entrusted to a new profession of monk/paladin-like 'trustees' who are regularly questioned under its effects to insure that they are not corrupted or influenced by outside interests....

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:14 pm

A Rifts Earth that only have contact with Alternate earths,like all Supernatural beings come from BtS,s Earth.

So D-Bees will only be humans from other Earths.

bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:21 pm

taalismn wrote:A means of verifying absolute TRUTH, beyond all possible doubts, is developed/discovered...resulting in a complete upheaval of the legal system...most lawyers are automatically out of a job, except for those arguing the constitutionality of government 'fishing' with the verification means. The means is entrusted to a new profession of monk/paladin-like 'trustees' who are regularly questioned under its effects to insure that they are not corrupted or influenced by outside interests....

Almost sounds like "The Fair Witness" in the book Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:30 am

Excellent Alternate Universes! :ok:

Please keep them coming!

Roscoe Del'Tane · Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:09 am

taalismn wrote:Well, you're insane, which is a good qualification for WANTING to be President...

Whips out a puppet and starts doing ventriliquism: Hey! Stop sign, thank you! Turn around, doing doing, horshoe-turtle! Uga diga-diga-diga-diga!

Course, it helps to have been brought up by a quilter and a lawyer who both square dance... so I have a considerable head start on most people in the phsycological slippage department

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bigbobsr6000 · Unread post by **bigbobsr6000** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:17 am

"Roscoe Del'Tane? He's just this guy."

I thought you had to have two heads and three arms to be President.......er........um.....never mind.

(wrong setting)

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:28 pm

In the early days of the United States the electorial college was deemed worthless and done away with. So that way the popular vote controls who becomes the next president.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:09 pm

Roscoe Del'Tane wrote:
taalismn wrote:Well, you're insane, which is a good qualification for WANTING to be President...

Whips out a puppet and starts doing ventriliquism: Hey! Stop sign, thank you! Turn around, doing doing, horshoe-turtle! Uga diga-diga-diga-diga!

Course, it helps to have been brought up by a quilter and a lawyer who both square dance... so I have a considerable head start on most people in the phsycological slippage department .

"Roscoe Del'Tane
---The big story isn't his faults...It's his strengths..."

"Roscoe for Prez...
Don't worry about American Homeland Security...His Zygorthian Death-Commando Squads will readily dispose of the enemies of this great nation of ours..OVERNIGHT."

"Roscoe Del'Tane for President...
When the call comes in the middle of the night, he'll go back to sleep...because by the time he picks up the phone, orbital bombardment will have already taken care of the problem."

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:11 am

I'll support your candidacy Roscoe! What are your policies? Could you please cover them for us. :::Holding a microphone towards Roscoe.:::