Storm vs Thor

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Sun May 15, 2005 11:56 pm

Thor. He did it once, why not again?

Cranus · Unread post by **Cranus** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:03 am

Thor. He beat her in Contest of Champions 2 which was written by Chris Claremont. Which alone says something. Also, Thor is a 'god' of storms whom also is a terrific warrior.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:04 am

Storm would never win unless you're using BloodStorm from Mutant X storyline.

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:20 am

Gomen_Nagai wrote:Storm would never win unless you're using BloodStorm from Mutant X storyline.

That would be interesting.

Still, what is a normal Storm going to do? Punch him into submission? Hit him with a lightning bolt?

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:36 am

Thor, God Of Thunder, Son of Odin, Prince of Asgard for the win.
Unlike Storm, Thor can magically summon and control weather: meaning he can make it rain in the desert and not adversely impact other areas' weather, unlike our mutant heroine.
Thor has all of his physical advantages as well (Storm may have bested Cyclops, at a time when he was suffering his usual Claremont-induced emotional vertigo), but she could no more defeat Thor physically than she could Gladiator.

Cardiac · Unread post by **Cardiac** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:20 am

Thor, without a doubt.

The Baron of chaos · Mon May 16, 2005 3:25 am

Last time Thor beat her French Kissing her!!!
like to say "Is good to be the God of thunder" :lol:

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:13 am

This isn't even a contest. How could a mutant who can control the weather possibly defeat the god of storms?

Cardiac · Unread post by **Cardiac** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:17 pm

Yeah, Thor would definately win. Even not considering his strength, toughness and combat advantges, the God of Thunder can control storms better than the Mutant.

Thor could counter her powers and then waltz over and flick her with his pinkie finger and it's over.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:51 pm

bLOODstorm was storm turned into a mutant vampire (she could turn into a vampiric mist and suck your blood in that form for example) an accident that happened when they took on baron blood ...

Daniel Stoker · Mon May 16, 2005 5:49 pm

Uh... wasn't it Dracula who turned her going back to the OOOOLLLDD Issue in the 80's when they faught him?

Daniel Stoker

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:16 pm

Daniel Stoker wrote:Uh... wasn't it Dracula who turned her going back to the OOOOLLLDD Issue in the 80's when they faught him?

Daniel Stoker

Uncanny X-Men #159, IIRC.
But, the transformation wasn't completed.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:17 pm

in the mutant X storyline it was baron blood.

Daniel Stoker · Mon May 16, 2005 10:25 pm

I think it was Dracula.

BLOODSTORM Mutant X Marvel Action Figure By Toy Biz

Ororo Munroe was once the X-Man code-named Storm for her ability to control the weather. After an horrific encounter with Dracula, she died and returned as a vampire. Soon thereafter, she left the X-Men seeking answers about herself and her new state-of-being. She later returned to join Havok's mutant superteam, The Six, calling herself Bloodstorm. Ororo retained her mutant power of weather control but now has the preternatural gifts of the living dead at her disposal making her an even more formidable opponent. Bloodstorm can transform her body into mist, summon and control the myriad creatures of the night and on occasion use an "hypnotic stare" to hold humans in her thrall. Her vampiric nature amplifies her control of the forces of nature but makes her unpredictable in battle. Includes Display Base and Trading Card!

Daniel Stoker

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:11 am

hmm .. Must have misread that flashback issue wrong..

MrTwist · Unread post by **MrTwist** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:15 am

I took a look at Mutant X #1. Yeah, it was Dracula.

Daniel Stoker · Tue May 17, 2005 10:33 am

I couldn't find my copy last night, but thanks MrTwist. I realy enjoyed that series, especially since I have the original X-men with Dracula in it, as well as the What-If with Wolverine becomeing 'King of the Vampires' and horribly ripped off... uh I mean was inspired by that in my one Hero's game.

Daniel Stoker

Killer Cyborg · Wed May 18, 2005 12:38 am

C.R.A.F.T. wrote:I'm a big fan of Storm, even when she lost her powers she still bested Cyclops.

Eh.
That was a stupid issue.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:25 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:
C.R.A.F.T. wrote:I'm a big fan of Storm, even when she lost her powers she still bested Cyclops.

Eh.
That was a stupid issue.

It was a stupid period in time for the X-Men.
Chris Claremont wouldn't start writing good stories for the X-Men again until after Jim Lee and Whilce Portacio came on board as artists.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed May 18, 2005 12:54 pm

C.R.A.F.T. wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
C.R.A.F.T. wrote:I'm a big fan of Storm, even when she lost her powers she still bested Cyclops.

Eh.
That was a stupid issue.

Actually it had a couple things going for it: It showed that skills can best powers if applied correctly, I think it was the first issue with Cable, and it let Storm show her true colors.

Most issues are filler for those issues that mean something, this was one was one of those issues that will be worth something.

Cable doesn't come along until much later. (New Mutants #87, IIRC).

In any event, Scott had already twice defeated the combined team (once on Muir Island, once in the Danger Room), demonstrating that he has skills in combat as well as the ability to creatively apply his powers, and think on his feet. All abilities he lost mysteriously because Claremont needed to give his de-powered Storm a boost of credibility. What better way to enhance a characters credibility, than to show them stomping on an established character? This is a Chris Claremont trademark.
It's also pretty lame.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:04 pm

Tyciol wrote:Still, let's all compare Blood Storm to Thor now.

If she can turn to mist, Mjolnir can't hit her.

What would happen if she drank Thor's blood?

Marvel vampires can be hurt in mist form, so Thor can get to her that way.
The gods of Asgard don't have blood: they have ichor in their veins, and I don't believe they can be turned into the undead (if they could, Hela would be all over that, as she does not like to be cheated).

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:32 am

considering the weather control powers Lilith has, The weather control powers blood storm has would be on the same level as Thor's hammer.

Blood Storm can also form a vampiric Mist that can suck the blood via air contact.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:52 pm

Tyciol wrote:I bet Ichor tastes twice as good and is a dozen times more empowering.

Thor says "Bringith it."

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:54 am

yes, canonicaly, the asguardian icor is 10 times more empowering.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:28 am

Thor says: "I thinketh not. If thou wouldst drink the blood of the Prince Of Asgard and the God of Thunder, then thou must first drink from the bitter cup of Beat-Down."

(insert funky back-beats)

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:03 pm

Storm might create weather, but Thor controls it. And he has every physical advantage.

One shot from Mjolnir and it's all over but the crying.

The God of Thunder for the win.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sat May 21, 2005 1:04 am

One night with Thor would rock her world.
She'd become his love slave.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Sat May 21, 2005 9:03 am

Actually, if it came down to thor or blood storm controlling the weather it would go to blood storm...she's definintely got the higher willpower.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sat May 21, 2005 3:19 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:Actually, if it came down to thor or blood storm controlling the weather it would go to blood storm...she's definintely got the higher willpower.

Oh, no.
Thors' will power is second to none.
How many times has Storm faced Celestials? The Indestrucible Destroyer? True gods? The types of menaces Thor routinely faces have given him a definite edge in the strength of will department.
For all her power, Storm is merely mortal. I doubt her will would be strong enough (as Thors' was) to determine the fate of Asgard.
Besides, Storm is claustrophobic. Thor has no such limitation.

znbrtn · Unread post by **znbrtn** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:29 pm

i really don't think there's any contest here.... thor could take storm down any day of the week....

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:57 am

brannigan's law wrote:i really don't think there's any contest here.... thor could take storm down any day of the week....

And twice on Thursday.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Sun May 22, 2005 11:49 am

Now, Blood Storm is an immortal, and Vamps Can Best Gods ( Thor is more of a demi god in marvel, Especially since he keeps getting bonded to Mortals )

For god sakes Thor Lost to Molecule and MOLE man

Cardiac · Unread post by **Cardiac** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:46 pm

Dude...who the hell is talking about "BLOODSTORM"!?!? She is a meaningless little "what if" one-shot character.

Even so...I seriously doubt vamp-storm can defeat Thor - a god weilding some pretty powerful magic.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sun May 22, 2005 5:47 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:Now, Blood Storm is an immortal, and Vamps Can Best Gods ( Thor is more of a demi god in marvel, Especially since he keeps getting bonded to Mortals )

For god sakes Thor Lost to Molecule and MOLE man

Everybody loses to Molecule Man. He controls all molecules: It doesn't matter if they're magical, technological, or empowered by the Power Cosmic: he can control them, even organic(living) matter. To defeat Molecule Man requires cosmic beings like Galactus.

I've never seen Mole Man defeat Thor.

Preacher · Unread post by **Preacher** » Sun May 22, 2005 6:00 pm

Sentinel wrote:
Gomen_Nagai wrote:Now, Blood Storm is an immortal, and Vamps Can Best Gods ( Thor is more of a demi god in marvel, Especially since he keeps getting bonded to Mortals )

For god sakes Thor Lost to Molecule and MOLE man

Everybody loses to Molecule Man. He controls all molecules: It doesn't matter if they're magical, technological, or empowered by the Power Cosmic: he can control them, even organic(living) matter. To defeat Molecule Man requires cosmic beings like Galactus.

I've never seen Mole Man defeat Thor.

Ditto

Specially the Mole man thing. Could you point me in the direction of that Title and Issue Please.

Preacher · Unread post by **Preacher** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:09 pm

I saw Ghost Rider smack Thor around way back in the day not long after He arrived on the scene.

Ghost Rider was actually giving the Avengers a run for their money what with throwing around all that hellfire. Mostly keeping them at bay.

Thor walks through the hellfire and does one of his monologs on how he is a god and whatnot so Ghost Rider decides that he might be a tad out of his league and jumps on his bike to flee. Thor decides to put Ghost Rider down with Mjolnir so he throws it while making some comment about Varlets not escaping the son of Odin.

Ghost Rider is hauling so fast that he manages to stay just a foot or two in front of the Hammer and when it turns to fly back to Thors hand GR jumps off the bike and rides it back sucker punching Thor and knocking him down long enough to make his escape.

The rest of the Avengers finally arive and ask Thor if he is alright and he says "Aye and much wiser."

That was back as I said not too long after Ghost Rider made the Marvel scene and I remember it in detail but for the life of me I can't remember a Mole Man smack down on Thor?!?!?

Preacher · Unread post by **Preacher** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:55 pm

C.R.A.F.T. wrote:
Preacher wrote:I saw Ghost Rider smack Thor around way back in the day not long after He arrived on the scene.

You must be talking about Johnny Blaze not Danny Ketch.

Yep the Original way long time ago.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon May 23, 2005 9:31 am

Preacher wrote:
C.R.A.F.T. wrote:
Preacher wrote:I saw Ghost Rider smack Thor around way back in the day not long after He arrived on the scene.

You must be talking about Johnny Blaze not Danny Ketch.

Yep the Original way long time ago.

Isn't it interesting how Ghost Rider could give Thor a hard time, and yet losers like the Orb and Water Wizard were a challenge for Ghost Rider?

Cranus · Unread post by **Cranus** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:21 pm

Did that occurrence happen in Ghost Rider's book? If so, of course he can make a good showing against Thor. Its his book. Either that or GR got lucky...

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:13 pm

The early Avengers were bested by Mole man till the arrival of a new Avenger, which I think was antman or Wonderman in the 70s/early 80s.
Thor was always an Avenger so was Iron Man.

Ok Correction. The Avengers were Losing vs Mole Man Till the arrival of WASP.
And why Didn't thor just Zap them All with his hammer?
Cause there were HORDeS of his minions and they had Giant boring Machines which threatened to Sink All of manhattan...

Preacher · Unread post by **Preacher** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:28 pm

Ranger wrote:So what you are saying is that GR hit Thor in an unusual way and SURPRISED Thor, not actually kicking his ass and taking names. Luck is a cruel mistress.

No he didn't actually send Thor back to Odin crying or nothing but he sure suprised the heck out of him long enough to make his escape. :lol:

znbrtn · Unread post by **znbrtn** » Fri May 27, 2005 7:26 pm

Tyciol wrote:Of course if Ghostrider had used the PENANCE STARE on him...

Man the penance stair kills everything, especially Galactus.

yeah, but doesn't the penance stare only work on evil beings?

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:24 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:The early Avengers were bested by Mole man till the arrival of a new Avenger, which I think was antman or Wonderman in the 70s/early 80s.
Thor was always an Avenger so was Iron Man.

Ok Correction. The Avengers were Losing vs Mole Man Till the arrival of WASP.
And why Didn't thor just Zap them All with his hammer?
Cause there were HORDeS of his minions and they had Giant boring Machines which threatened to Sink All of manhattan...

Back in the Lee/Kirby days, Thor held his power in check quite frequently.
And the point of the Avengers stories was to show all the characters taking turns saving the day. Even Wasp and Giant Man.

BTW, Ant-Man (later Giant Man, then Goliath, then Yellowjacket), Wasp, Iron Man, and Thor were always Avengers until issue #16. Wonder Man came and went in issue#9, and didn't come back full time until issue #151 (notwithstanding an appearance in the Legion of The Unliving).

Mole Man was given entirely too much credence as a villain. Lee did a much better job with characters like Doom, Magneto, and Loki, while his better B-List villains include Red Ghost, Super-Skrull, Diablo, and most of the Spider-Man enemies.
Over time several of the B-team villains became A-List.

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:21 pm

Penance stair on thor will be heavy too, he had quite a thing go wrong while he was with Syth.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:52 am

So, the long-and-short of this topic is, Storm can't beat Thor as she is normally (without the vampiric powers, etc).

Overlord Rikonius · Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:11 pm

Gomen_Nagai wrote:Penance stair on thor will be heavy too, he had quite a thing go wrong while he was with Syth.

you mean Sif?

Or Sith? Damn, imagine Thor as a Sith, scary thought there, huh? Red lightsaber in one hand, Mjolnir in the other... using TK and force choke in addition to his lightning power...

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:47 pm

Okay, how about teenaged Storm, VS. teenaged Thor (anyone reading Thor, Son of Asgard?).

Anytakers on the battle of the Adolescent Wunderkind?

Gomen_Nagai · Unread post by **Gomen_Nagai** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:41 pm

thor has no immunity to Weather, his control over such is from his hammer.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:29 am

Gomen_Nagai wrote:thor has no immunity to Weather, his control over such is from his hammer.

Several accounts in the past have demonstarted that Thor is unaffected by severe weather. Secret Wars (1st series) comes to my mind immediately.

Preacher · Unread post by **Preacher** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:38 pm

Sentinel wrote:
Gomen_Nagai wrote:thor has no immunity to Weather, his control over such is from his hammer.

Several accounts in the past have demonstarted that Thor is unaffected by severe weather. Secret Wars (1st series) comes to my mind immediately.

Yep with the rain and hail hitting with the force of .44 Magnum Slugs and laughing about it.

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