Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
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Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Would people in Palladium Fantasy recognize a cyber-knight?
Would they think them a regular Knight?
Do Cyber-Knights have a reputation in the world?
I ask because I have a player character who wants to take his Cyber-Knight to Palladium Fantasy.
Would they think them a regular Knight?
Do Cyber-Knights have a reputation in the world?
I ask because I have a player character who wants to take his Cyber-Knight to Palladium Fantasy.
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Would the Palladium World recognize a Cyber-Knight? No, they likely would not as they don't have a known reputation in the world (at large, now specific communities might if connected to dimensional travel).
At least by the main PF book they might be mistaken for a Knight in a number of ways (over hear them use their title of sir/lady, mounted, armor styling but that isn't guaranteed since knights do not monopolize armor styling), but they could also be mistaken for a Mind Mage (Rifts Mind Melter) due to their use of the psi-sword (though it would be weaker, but "draw" faster).
At least by the main PF book they might be mistaken for a Knight in a number of ways (over hear them use their title of sir/lady, mounted, armor styling but that isn't guaranteed since knights do not monopolize armor styling), but they could also be mistaken for a Mind Mage (Rifts Mind Melter) due to their use of the psi-sword (though it would be weaker, but "draw" faster).
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Concur with ShadowLogan. They might be taken for a knight, or some sort of psychic or wizard, or some combination of the three, but they're not going to be known as a "Cyber-Knight" unless they start introducing themselves as such and get a reputation.
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Cyber-Knights would not be recognized as a specific force. They are unique to Rifts Earth. They would likely be mistaken as a foreign Knight from some other kingdom since their heraldry, if they are wearing any type of symbols on their armor, wouldn't be recognizable. Their powers when used in view could confuse those that know that knights don't usually summon a psi-sword.
Otherwise they are viewed as a wandering warrior type.
Otherwise they are viewed as a wandering warrior type.

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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
To the people of the Palladium world, they'd probably hear "cyber knight" and think "psi-ber knight".
As a group, they aren't known. Some individuals may be aware of them, though. Primarily deities and/or extremely ancient dragons that are capable of interdimensional travel
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As a group, they aren't known. Some individuals may be aware of them, though. Primarily deities and/or extremely ancient dragons that are capable of interdimensional travel
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Even then, the dimensionals would need to be aware of Rifts Earth North America... a very specific reference point in the grand scheme of the megaverse.
Wouldn't be surprised if typically seen initially as a demonic monster or at least not trusted by the uninformed. Farming folk brandishing pitch forks and the like. Remember their "cyber" part is wholly unnatural in PF. Priests and other mystic protectors would likely set up tests of various kinds to ensure this part mage, part metal golem, part errant knight is actually a force for good.
Getting endorsed by a guild or church or kingdom should be step one to being validated. As Marcethus pointed out, heraldry will be important to establish their social status. I'm sure it doesn't take long to be accepted into a community once vetted, but it would have to be done again and again in every new community they visit unless promoted by a major PF power bloc.
Wouldn't be surprised if typically seen initially as a demonic monster or at least not trusted by the uninformed. Farming folk brandishing pitch forks and the like. Remember their "cyber" part is wholly unnatural in PF. Priests and other mystic protectors would likely set up tests of various kinds to ensure this part mage, part metal golem, part errant knight is actually a force for good.
Getting endorsed by a guild or church or kingdom should be step one to being validated. As Marcethus pointed out, heraldry will be important to establish their social status. I'm sure it doesn't take long to be accepted into a community once vetted, but it would have to be done again and again in every new community they visit unless promoted by a major PF power bloc.
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
I agree that the general populace of the Pallidum World would have no knowledge of a cyber-knight.
But.. the very first Cyber-Knight, Lord Coake, was originally from the Palladium world (I think he started off as a ranger before "inventing" Cyber-Knighthood). I wonder if there are any people back home connected to Lord Coake who are aware of his transition and new life in another dimension, or whether Coake has visited his old home at all and left any lasting effect?
But.. the very first Cyber-Knight, Lord Coake, was originally from the Palladium world (I think he started off as a ranger before "inventing" Cyber-Knighthood). I wonder if there are any people back home connected to Lord Coake who are aware of his transition and new life in another dimension, or whether Coake has visited his old home at all and left any lasting effect?
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Yes Lord Coake was the from Palladium World (and was a Ranger originally), but he is also over 230-270years old (SoT pg77) and human. So if anyone remembers him it's not likely to be a human (unless one wants to consider time travel, for all we know Coake is from PF's future or its distant past as there is no requirement for time to flow at the same rate for both dimensions or for the Dimensional Travel to bring you to the same point in time in both dimensions).
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
I thank you all for your replies.
Grazzik, your response seems the most probable.
Come to think of it, "What languagea(s) would a visiting Cyber-Knight have to speak to speak with people?"
Dragonese?
Grazzik, your response seems the most probable.
Come to think of it, "What languagea(s) would a visiting Cyber-Knight have to speak to speak with people?"
Dragonese?
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Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Dragonese/Elf is a default language for Cyber-Knights. How human tongues on Rifts Earth translate to Palladium Fantasy is not established (AFAIK), but the non-human tongues likely intended to be 100% transportable as there are examples of both in RUE and PF2E (Gobbley and Faerie), so there are going to be languages that can be used w/o penalty. However, D/E is not a default language of any class in the Main Book (IINM), the default is Native (so in an Elven community you'd be fine, but anywhere else there is a chance for communication to be difficult) though most classes also get several language skills to start...
Re: Cyber-Knights in the Palladium Fantasy
Dragonese/Elf is a bit of a trade language in PF as far as I recall. It's also used heavily among scholars and nobility. The Human languages are something that would have to be learned after arriving on the Palladium world. Other than that the other languages Wolfen, Giant, Gobblely and Faerie are 100% transferable between worlds.ShadowLogan wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:31 pm Dragonese/Elf is a default language for Cyber-Knights. How human tongues on Rifts Earth translate to Palladium Fantasy is not established (AFAIK), but the non-human tongues likely intended to be 100% transportable as there are examples of both in RUE and PF2E (Gobbley and Faerie), so there are going to be languages that can be used w/o penalty. However, D/E is not a default language of any class in the Main Book (IINM), the default is Native (so in an Elven community you'd be fine, but anywhere else there is a chance for communication to be difficult) though most classes also get several language skills to start...

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