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May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up? I'm tempted to ignore this completely. but I wont.

I'd say cost should be nearly equivalent to combat borg/robot costs, due to demand. Remember, its all related to the market.

People pay alot for fun, especially those who have the time, money, and are jaded enough to buy a pleasure doll/borg/robot.
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Her neon mouth with the blinking soft smile
Is nothing but an electric sign
You could say she has an individual style
She's part of a colorful time

Super-sealed lady, chrome-color clothes
You wear 'cause you have no other
But I suppose no one knows
You're my plastic fantastic lover

Your rattlin' cough never shuts off
Is nothin' but a used machine
Your aluminum finish, slightly diminished
Is the best I ever have seen

Cosmetic baby plugged into me
And never ever find another
And I realize no one's wise
To my plastic fantastic lover

The electrical dust is starting to rust
Her trapezoid thermometer taste
All the red tape is mechanical rape
Of the TV program waste

Data control and IBM
Science is mankind's brother
But all I see is drainin' me
On my plastic fantastic lover





Find a comparable bot's M.D.C.
And if your loveborg needs M.D.C. what the hell are you doing to the poor thing? :p
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Natasha wrote:Her neon mouth with the blinking soft smile
Is nothing but an electric sign
You could say she has an individual style
She's part of a colorful time

Super-sealed lady, chrome-color clothes
You wear 'cause you have no other
But I suppose no one knows
You're my plastic fantastic lover

Your rattlin' cough never shuts off
Is nothin' but a used machine
Your aluminum finish, slightly diminished
Is the best I ever have seen

Cosmetic baby plugged into me
And never ever find another
And I realize no one's wise
To my plastic fantastic lover

The electrical dust is starting to rust
Her trapezoid thermometer taste
All the red tape is mechanical rape
Of the TV program waste

Data control and IBM
Science is mankind's brother
But all I see is drainin' me
On my plastic fantastic lover





Find a comparable bot's M.D.C.
And if your loveborg needs M.D.C. what the hell are you doing to the poor thing? :p

Sexy! lol.
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TrumbachD wrote:your right I hadn't considered the demand, only the manufacturing cost.
But as to your first question, selfish aligned characters might very easily traffick in such things. Plus they are a fixture in many Sci Fi universes.
BTW: is there a source that gives info on cost and mental attributes for artificial intelligence on rifts earth? It didn't seem to be included in RUE.

I'm pretty sure that there's a book on robot construction, one of the early ones actually.
Gah I can't remember the title for the life of me.
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TrumbachD wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:Find a comparable bot's M.D.C.
And if your loveborg needs M.D.C. what the hell are you doing to the poor thing? :p

By Suggesting Biosystems I meant to suggest S.D.C. Materials, sorry I didn't specify .

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TrumbachD wrote:We know from our own world that highly advanced loved dolls are very popular, and that these can cost several thousand dollars (U.S.). Why wouldn't such things exist on Rifts Earth and/or Phase world? But considering the costs and capabilities listed for other types of bots, what would the *cost* and capailities of a non-combat, single-purpose-programmed, Mail-order Bot or Borg be?
1)obviously a bit less expensive than a tricked-out killing machine.
2)Since slavery of living beings is obviously unconscionable, such a Bot or Borg woulld obviously need an artificial Intelligence, albeit limited Perhaps the equivalent of an Artificial Biosystem brain with an IQ and ME of 7-8 seems about right from the info on low Attributes in RUE. but, given its purpose, it might be programmed with a slightly higher MA. but how much higher?
3)in order to be realistic, such a Bot or Borg would most likely be made from Artificial Bio-systems with PS, PP, and PE as stated for those systems but the original Rifts Main Book doesn't seem to list a Chest/Main Body SDC in the Bio sytems section (Did I just read it wrong?).
That's all i've got so far, anybody else got any ideas?


1. Not necessarily, since the machine you describe would have to be tricked-out in other ways.
2. I don't believe they have any borgs that are not living beings.
3. It might be doable to have a borg with a biosystems main body, but again, it would still be a person.

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So I guess that in Rifts if you're a sexbot taking one or two the chin can be lethal. :shock:
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TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.

Can survive well past 200 years in a metallic body, while new parts added to a biological being may last 100 or more years every time they are replaced, the brain itself isn't likely to go past 300 years. this is mentioned over the course of various books. There is an implant that increases the lifespan of the brain indefinately at the cost of your sanity, but thats is rather difficult to acquire.
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TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?
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Natasha wrote:So I guess that in Rifts if you're a sexbot taking one or two the chin can be lethal. :shock:
Only if servicing those with SN PS.
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Marrowlight wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?

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Misfit KotLD wrote:
Natasha wrote:So I guess that in Rifts if you're a sexbot taking one or two the chin can be lethal. :shock:
Only if servicing those with SN PS.

oooo I thought the bot was all S.D.C. materials.

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Marrowlight wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?

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Prettz wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?

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TrumbachD wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?


NO!

Yes would have made for a much more interesting story. :)
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Natasha wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:
TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up?

There are several possibilities for such a body, In addition to a Sexually preprogrammed AI, you could put a real brain in a minimal SDC, Low attribute borg for medical purposes, essentially a full body prosthesis for conditions ranging from spinal injury, ALS, or MS, or any other condition that limits movement/mobility. Also an aging or terminally ill person might make use of such a conversion. although RUE doesn't specify how much life extension one can get from a Borg conversion.


Wait, are you saying that you'd want a love bot that was once a terminally ill older person, and that they'd be ok being your lovedoll, so that they don't have to die?


NO!

Yes would have made for a much more interesting story. :)

I agree, but a mentally ill younger person with a real body is much cheaper.
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man, I've seen what an errant jelly sandwhich can do to a computer, I'd rather not have to deal with "other" substances in my high priced gadgets
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cyber-yukongil v2.5 wrote:man, I've seen what an errant jelly sandwhich can do to a computer, I'd rather not have to deal with "other" substances in my high priced gadgets

You'd have it sealed and wate.....er.......fluid proofed silly. :roll:

We sick...er.......inventers think about these things ya'know. A lot.
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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:I agree, but a mentally ill younger person with a real body is much cheaper.

That's so unbelievably wrong but somehow it's still right!
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Natasha wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:I agree, but a mentally ill younger person with a real body is much cheaper.

That's so unbelievably wrong but somehow it's still right!

:bandit: If their family, then their free! :ok:

*sigh* being evil is hard......
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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
Natasha wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:I agree, but a mentally ill younger person with a real body is much cheaper.

That's so unbelievably wrong but somehow it's still right!

:bandit: If their family, then their free! :ok:

*sigh* being evil is hard......

I. Hadn't heard.

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OK, that one almost broke my brain.
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TrumbachD wrote:
Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
cyber-yukongil v2.5 wrote:man, I've seen what an errant jelly sandwhich can do to a computer, I'd rather not have to deal with "other" substances in my high priced gadgets

You'd have it sealed and wate.....er.......fluid proofed silly. :roll:
That brings up the AR Issue again, I suggested 5 earlier do you think this is about right?

Well if it's 5 why have AR at all?

You could go up to 10 and probably most could still backhand their sexbot without embarrassment of missing.
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TrumbachD wrote:We know from our own world that highly advanced loved dolls are very popular, and that these can cost several thousand dollars (U.S.). Why wouldn't such things exist on Rifts Earth and/or Phase world? But considering the costs and capabilities listed for other types of bots, what would the *cost* and capabilities of a non-combat, single-purpose-programmed, Mail-order Bot or Borg be?
1)obviously a bit less expensive than a tricked-out killing machine.
2)Since slavery of living beings is obviously unconscionable, such a Bot or Borg would obviously need an artificial Intelligence, albeit limited Perhaps the equivalent of an Artificial Bio-system brain with an IQ and ME of 7-8 seems about right from the info on low Attributes in RUE. but, given its purpose, it might be programmed with a slightly higher MA. but how much higher?
3)in order to be realistic, such a Bot or Borg would most likely be made from Artificial Bio-systems with PS, PP, and PE as stated for those systems but the original Rifts Main Book doesn't seem to list a Chest/Main Body SDC in the Bio-systems section (Did I just read it wrong?).
That's all i've got so far, anybody else got any ideas?


Sounds like some of the boomers from Bubblegum Crisis. Which also brings up the movie BladeRunner.
Then there is also Masamune Shiro's "Ghost in the Shell" series, which love/companion bots are in the lexicon.

Other places you might look are the Japan book (cloned bodies) or just build a bot from the robot section in RSB1 (A.R.C.H.I.E.) or if you don't have that HU2 or HU1, AU, HU:GG, RT:TSC (Janice M. 2.0) or RT2:Sentinels (Janice M. 1.0)[not sure about the RT2:S version is there.], CyberMage in Between the shadows, Rifts Bionic Sourcebook.

I would double the cost for the AI if you are linking it up to a Flesh and Blood body, or Add 50% of the base cost for using bio-systems.
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TrumbachD wrote:
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TrumbachD wrote:We know from our own world that highly advanced loved dolls are very popular, and that these can cost several thousand dollars (U.S.). Why wouldn't such things exist on Rifts Earth and/or Phase world? But considering the costs and capabilities listed for other types of bots, what would the *cost* and capailities of a non-combat, single-purpose-programmed, Mail-order Bot or Borg be?
1)obviously a bit less expensive than a tricked-out killing machine.
2)Since slavery of living beings is obviously unconscionable, such a Bot or Borg woulld obviously need an artificial Intelligence, albeit limited Perhaps the equivalent of an Artificial Biosystem brain with an IQ and ME of 7-8 seems about right from the info on low Attributes in RUE. but, given its purpose, it might be programmed with a slightly higher MA. but how much higher?
3)in order to be realistic, such a Bot or Borg would most likely be made from Artificial Bio-systems with PS, PP, and PE as stated for those systems but the original Rifts Main Book doesn't seem to list a Chest/Main Body SDC in the Bio sytems section (Did I just read it wrong?).
That's all i've got so far, anybody else got any ideas?


1. Not necessarily, since the machine you describe would have to be tricked-out in other ways.
2. I don't believe they have any borgs that are not living beings.
3. It might be doable to have a borg with a biosystems main body, but again, it would still be a person.

Grab SB1 and build yourself the robot you want. It'll have the price for most of the options you're looking for (realistic skin overlay, hair, etc.).

That's why I included the suggestion of a 'Bot as an alternative to a borg wich would contain a real persons, brain. I only suggested Artificial Biosytems since they're made to be the most realistic.


That's because they're actual flesh, for the most part.
I don't recall any place describing them as being viable for bots, though.

BTW, does SB1 include actual Mental Attributes numbers for artificial intelligences?


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Marrowlight wrote:OK, that one almost broke my brain.

Which one, the underage mentally impaired love slave, the one thats family, or the "fluid" sealed bot?

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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:May I be the first to ask......
huh???? Why is this even coming up? I'm tempted to ignore this completely. but I wont.

I'd say cost should be nearly equivalent to combat borg/robot costs, due to demand. Remember, its all related to the market.

People pay alot for fun, especially those who have the time, money, and are jaded enough to buy a pleasure doll/borg/robot.


...and it gets worse in REALLY decadent places like Splynn, where we'll just mention in passing the market in sex-toy symbiotes...(looks away whistling)...
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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:OK, that one almost broke my brain.

Which one, the underage mentally impaired love slave, the one thats family, or the "fluid" sealed bot?

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Probably some hecho en Mexico* as well.


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TrumbachD wrote:and it gets worse in REALLY decadent places like Splynn, where we'll just mention in passing the market in sex-toy symbiotes...(looks away whistling)...

That's exactly the kind of place I originally envisioned this kind of Robot or Borg being acquired. particularly by selfish and/or evil aligned persons.[/quote]

Hell, the red light district in Splynn would put descriptions of Robert E. Howard's Shadizar the Wicked to shame....

Extra evil points for imprisoned Transferred Intelligences or trapped cyborged brains....
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Actually the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.
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Ale Golem wrote:Actuallt the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.

Probably not the upgrades Ziggurat had in mind, but yea. ;-)
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Natasha wrote:
Ale Golem wrote:Actuallt the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.

Probably not the upgrades Ziggurat had in mind, but yea. ;-)

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Ale Golem wrote:Actuallt the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.


For some dark and scary minds it's not enough to have static beauty at one's beck and call...for some, it's having a captive will at one's beck and call that's the real turn-on...

THis presents all sorts of problems for rescuers...how do you rehabilitate somebody who's been cyborgized and nueral-wired to be a slave? Besides the problems of re-openning all sorts of emotional wounds in somebody who's likely amped up reflex-wise above human average, there's the problem of back-up 'sleeper' programs popping up just when everybody thinks the cyberdamsel's all well and fine, and doing something like running back to master, or betraying the rescuers and their organization...

A cyborg (ex)pleasure-slave could be a marvelous PC(angst, recurring enemies, maybe insider information on them..), an interesting companion NPC, or a really tragic storyline...
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taalismn wrote:
Ale Golem wrote:Actuallt the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.


For some dark and scary minds it's not enough to have static beauty at one's beck and call...for some, it's having a captive will at one's beck and call that's the real turn-on...

THis presents all sorts of problems for rescuers...how do you rehabilitate somebody who's been cyborgized and nueral-wired to be a slave? Besides the problems of re-openning all sorts of emotional wounds in somebody who's likely amped up reflex-wise above human average, there's the problem of back-up 'sleeper' programs popping up just when everybody thinks the cyberdamsel's all well and fine, and doing something like running back to master, or betraying the rescuers and their organization...

A cyborg (ex)pleasure-slave could be a marvelous PC(angst, recurring enemies, maybe insider information on them..), an interesting companion NPC, or a really tragic storyline...

Sounds interesting, but I don't let my player experiment with that kind of deviant behavior, however if someone normal came along, I'd let them play it out.
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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Ale Golem wrote:Actuallt the idea of a completly brainwashed slave being given a super light full conversion makeover for whatever purposes the buyer intended is a really good idea and would command top dollar on the slave market, no wearing out and no need to replace them after they get too old to perform their intended functon. A buyer could also look toward future upgrades for thinks like protection body guard duty and such.


For some dark and scary minds it's not enough to have static beauty at one's beck and call...for some, it's having a captive will at one's beck and call that's the real turn-on...

THis presents all sorts of problems for rescuers...how do you rehabilitate somebody who's been cyborgized and nueral-wired to be a slave? Besides the problems of re-openning all sorts of emotional wounds in somebody who's likely amped up reflex-wise above human average, there's the problem of back-up 'sleeper' programs popping up just when everybody thinks the cyberdamsel's all well and fine, and doing something like running back to master, or betraying the rescuers and their organization...

A cyborg (ex)pleasure-slave could be a marvelous PC(angst, recurring enemies, maybe insider information on them..), an interesting companion NPC, or a really tragic storyline...

Sounds interesting, but I don't let my player experiment with that kind of deviant behavior, however if someone normal came along, I'd let them play it out.
Lol, probably the same reason our group of GMs won't let a certain player roll up a pleasure bunny character. Wow, that would be a really fun character to play, full coversion borg who was an escaped slave of some deviant "duke/dutchess" who used them as a plaything for themselves and guests. I'm thinking manic depressive at minimum and possibly several other fears that express themselves in the dark or confined spaces.
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Or they go to red alert every time they see anything pink and frilly, hear Barry White, or spot stilleto heels...

Anybody see the episode of the ol' 'Mork and MIndy' show where the terrestrial idea of a romantic evening(curtains, lights turned down low, candles, soft music)...just happens to be the set-up of an Orkan police punishment sentence/torture session?
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Lol, that's awesome.
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maybe the lovebot/sexaroid being used at some lor/ladys party catches the eye of a guest, he falls in love at first sight and hires PC's to "save the beautiful damsel held captive by the evil soandso"

the cost might actually be pretty high as those things might be "outlawed" where ever your creation is going to, also really reccomend a high PB stat (no one wants an ugly sex doll) :D
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Perhaps you could come up with bundled skill packages with the option of programming in more if the buyer is willing to spend the credits.

A little more P.P. to put them over average (especially if you have a dancerbot).
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I think MoM implants that enhance sense of touch and sex drive are more likely and cheaper than making a love borg.

I just typed that, that happened.
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argos wrote:Im sure prostitution isnt outlawed in many places and is prolly more fun and alot cheaper

There's advantages and disadvantages to both strategies.

Also: owning a sexbot doesn't preclude you from getting hookers and the other way round, too.

So maybe the sexbot needs to be like Mr. Potato head...different eyes, lips, hell, a whole different head.
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TrumbachD wrote:Do you mean like the borg Cyber disguise

I might :oops:

I'm not all that read up on Rifts borgs..... :|
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:If you want to be totally evil and torture someone, you could put them in a light but durable borg body with an A.I. override that automatically switches on at voice command, so they're forced to watch themselves comply to your every whim when they don't want to (extra evil points for making the body look exactly like their old one and paying extra for the ability for them to feel sensations). You could also rewire the pleasure centers of the brain to a chip that kicks them into overdrive everytime it identifies the villian's voice.
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TrumbachD wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:I think MoM implants that enhance sense of touch and sex drive are more likely and cheaper than making a love borg.

I just typed that, that happened.


Good idea except since those tend to cause insanity you may not want one that close, how about a new juicer, theNympho-Juicer.


We already have Viagra-Juicers in the current era...witb similar chemically-assisted burn-out-drop-dead lifespans.....
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Seems to me that the cyber-humanoid would be your best bet for a sex-borg, with perhaps some of the personality modifying stuff from mindwerks. Actually that would make for an interesting slave borg type character. Enhanced strength so they can work, doing whatever menial tasks you might want, enhanced looks and sexual organs (the adjusting breast implants from Japan come to mind - as do the cyber disguises), and personality modifying chips to make them compliant. PC can be one that has escaped their captors, or perhaps been kidnapped by those who have.
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MikelAmroni wrote:Seems to me that the cyber-humanoid would be your best bet for a sex-borg, with perhaps some of the personality modifying stuff from mindwerks. Actually that would make for an interesting slave borg type character. Enhanced strength so they can work, doing whatever menial tasks you might want, enhanced looks and sexual organs (the adjusting breast implants from Japan come to mind - as do the cyber disguises), and personality modifying chips to make them compliant. PC can be one that has escaped their captors, or perhaps been kidnapped by those who have.


"When I asked where you got your tricked-out cyborg body and you answered 'working undercover in the Japanese underworld', I'd ASSUMED you meant you were part of a police anti-organized crime taskforce sting, not a forced-conversion, brain-ripped escapee sex-worker on the run from a subterranean brothel and its enforcers!..*BANG*...oops, sorry, just a cat in the shadows..*BLAM*BLAM*..okay, THAT was a ninja...*SKROWWW*..and he brought friends...Any OTHER misunderstandings I should be aware of?"
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Did she mention that it was some new clan of yakuza with different tattoos that she worked for?

Sunaj AND Ninja??!?!?!
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TrumbachD wrote:If it's a little munchie for a Love-Borg I might be able to tweak it.

Sorry. I purposely took this out of context.

Though I do look forward to the finished product; I've been doing some thinking about bots lately myself.
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