What sets Dead Reign apart from other PB games?

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What sets Dead Reign apart from other PB games?

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This is prolly already covered, but I just couldnt find the thread. Keep in mind I dont have a gaming store around me, so I cant just pick up a book and flip through it.

Im just not feeling this game. How is this book any different than me playing with existing PB zombies in a (yet another) Post-Apocalypse world, using the same old guns listed in the back of HU with some generic OCCs thrown in there?

1) Are there new rules to the standard PB combat format? (I heard a rumor about multi-opponents)

2) Has Palladium finally updated their SDC guns from outside the 1970's, or is it just another reprint of the back of Heroes Unlimited?

3) Tanks, APCs, Helos, Jets? (if any?)

4) Are all the guns based on real weapons, or did they make up new ones like they did in After the Bomb?

5) I know there are different kinds of zombies (read them in a Rifter), how well did they expand upon zombies beyond what I read in Dark Conversions and the Rifter?

6) Are there MDC conversion stats? Notes on the effects of Magic?

7) Are zombies the only opponents?

8 ) is this a smash hit Rifter 21 "must have"? Or is it a Systems Failure "might use once in a Heroes/Rifts campaign" book?

Thanks in advance.
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Thanks CL!

I didnt realize the book was only at the printers. For some reason I saw the main page and thought it had shipped.
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Are they possessed of the standard Zombie Vulnerabilities/Invulnerabilities common to all Palladium undead???
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I for one was dead set against this book because other that Resident Evil I never cared for Zombies and I wanted some Rifts books out Now, but I got hooked by the cover art and the names of the O.C.C.s now I can't wait to get the book. Sure there's no magic or psionics, which at least may give my group a chance to try something new even if it only for a few weeks. I'm itching to read this one at work during the slow time.
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runebeo wrote:I for one was dead set against this book because other that Resident Evil I never cared for Zombies and I wanted some Rifts books out Now, but I got hooked by the cover art and the names of the O.C.C.s now I can't wait to get the book. Sure there's no magic or psionics, which at least may give my group a chance to try something new even if it only for a few weeks. I'm itching to read this one at work during the slow time.


I'll second more rifts books......

Some of my friends are zombie obsessed tho, so I may use this to get them used to the palladium mechanic...
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Kagashi wrote:This is prolly already covered, but I just couldnt find the thread. Keep in mind I dont have a gaming store around me, so I cant just pick up a book and flip through it.

Im just not feeling this game. How is this book any different than me playing with existing PB zombies in a (yet another) Post-Apocalypse world, using the same old guns listed in the back of HU with some generic OCCs thrown in there?

1) Are there new rules to the standard PB combat format? (I heard a rumor about multi-opponents)

2) Has Palladium finally updated their SDC guns from outside the 1970's, or is it just another reprint of the back of Heroes Unlimited?

3) Tanks, APCs, Helos, Jets? (if any?)

4) Are all the guns based on real weapons, or did they make up new ones like they did in After the Bomb?

5) I know there are different kinds of zombies (read them in a Rifter), how well did they expand upon zombies beyond what I read in Dark Conversions and the Rifter?

6) Are there MDC conversion stats? Notes on the effects of Magic?

7) Are zombies the only opponents?

8 ) is this a smash hit Rifter 21 "must have"? Or is it a Systems Failure "might use once in a Heroes/Rifts campaign" book?

Thanks in advance.


Okay...same questions now that the book is out!
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Here is a link I would recommend to aonyone reading the book: http://shortify.com/8091 . I somehow see a gane of DR having a lot of elements from Dead Rising.
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Kagashi wrote:This is prolly already covered, but I just couldnt find the thread. Keep in mind I dont have a gaming store around me, so I cant just pick up a book and flip through it.

Im just not feeling this game. How is this book any different than me playing with existing PB zombies in a (yet another) Post-Apocalypse world, using the same old guns listed in the back of HU with some generic OCCs thrown in there?

The zombies here are way different then anything Palladium has done before.

1) Are there new rules to the standard PB combat format? (I heard a rumor about multi-opponents)
There are additional combat rules now (ranged combat, called/aimed shots)etc.. are all a bit different to add a level of suspense.

2) Has Palladium finally updated their SDC guns from outside the 1970's, or is it just another reprint of the back of Heroes Unlimited?


Guns are updated.

3) Tanks, APCs, Helos, Jets? (if any?)


Tanks: Yes Helos: Yes Jets: Sorta

4) Are all the guns based on real weapons, or did they make up new ones like they did in After the Bomb?


They are real. I need to verify a specfic combat shotgun, but they are real. As for After the Bomb - uh duh, it was a futuristic RPG, so yeah things are going to be made up. Unless you know someone that can mutate animals overnight and give them human speech and looks? :D

5) I know there are different kinds of zombies (read them in a Rifter), how well did they expand upon zombies beyond what I read in Dark Conversions and the Rifter?


There are the 3 from the Rifter, plus Mock Zombie (zombie that retains some of its human memory. think of the black zombie gas station guy from Land of the Dead), Crawlers (zombies without legs).

6) Are there MDC conversion stats? Notes on the effects of Magic?


Yes there are MDC conversion stats. I dont recall effects of magic.

7) Are zombies the only opponents?


Nope. You got zombies, death priests, retros (humans who give up on tech and blame those that still cling to tech as the reason we have zombies), human scum/gangs/etc... other survivors, the elements, supplies,etc...

8 ) is this a smash hit Rifter 21 "must have"? Or is it a Systems Failure "might use once in a Heroes/Rifts campaign" book?


I think Dead Reign is going to be a smash. With certain people and their negativity isnt helping, once people see the book for themselves and make up their own minds, I think they will like it as much as I do.
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Sureshot wrote:Here is a link I would recommend to aonyone reading the book: http://shortify.com/8091 . I somehow see a gane of DR having a lot of elements from Dead Rising.

I love that video game!
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Thanks for the quick responses NMI! It sure helps me out a lot.

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Kagashi wrote:4) Are all the guns based on real weapons, or did they make up new ones like they did in After the Bomb?


They are real. I need to verify a specfic combat shotgun, but they are real. As for After the Bomb - uh duh, it was a futuristic RPG, so yeah things are going to be made up. Unless you know someone that can mutate animals overnight and give them human speech and looks? :D


Yeah, just want sure if DR was going to be another alternate type universe, or if it was based on zombies attacking tomorrow in a world similar to ours. Sounds like the latter.

For the record, I liked AtB and its weapons. Real stuff is cool too, Im just trying to get a feel of this game before buying it. I was disappointed with Splicers and Systems Failure and I didnt ask questions like this prior to buying them. Im not going to make that same mistake again. Course if more people actually shelved things other than WotC products around here, I wouldn't have to.
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The shotgun I wanted to verify is real too!
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Kinda off topic.. but kinda not.

The Compendium to Modern Weapons.. when was the last printing of it? Or a better question, If i was to buy it from Palladium, how current would the copy of it be?


Need to know :) And I also heard in DR, the weapon damage is kinda different based on BTS? how can that be? what is the difference between the worlds? its all the same, isnt it?
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Shotgun Jolly wrote:Kinda off topic.. but kinda not.

The Compendium to Modern Weapons.. when was the last printing of it? Or a better question, If i was to buy it from Palladium, how current would the copy of it be?


Need to know :) And I also heard in DR, the weapon damage is kinda different based on BTS? how can that be? what is the difference between the worlds? its all the same, isnt it?


I dont have my copy with me, so Im not sure for certain, but I got mine sometime in 1996 or 97 or so. There might be printings after that, but I dont think the book has been revised since then. So the most modern weapon in there is like the now unused Calico pistols. No P-90s or anything newer like that. Tanks and such are pretty old (1980s vintage at the newest).

The damages and SDC of the weapons are slightly different than the rest of palladium because the book was designed to be used by any game system out there. But its still pretty close to Palladium damages.

Its a decent book, although I think it could be better or expanded upon.
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Well unless you have access to a manufacturing facility or are a serious gun enthusiast or are in the military the latest greatest guns are probably not something you could scrounge. I feel Contemporary weapons is an excellent resource for firearms, RPG and Anti tank weapons. I havent bought Dead Reign yet nor do i have BTS2 so I cant tell if the system has changed but I expect it is close enough the stats for forearms will still be usefull.
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