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I stumbled over this over on the Rifts board. I have no idea what it was doing over there, but it's still cool.
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Yes, yes it is.



Anti-materiel rifles are one of my favourites.
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ash_wednesday wrote:My..those are BIG bullets...


I take it you've never seen 20mm rounds.
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Or an 18lber howitzer shell.
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Jefffar wrote:Yes, yes it is.



Anti-materiel rifles are one of my favourites.


Get WOTC's D20 Modern Weapons Locker, it's got several pages of Anti-materiel rifles to play with.
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Had it for several months allready.
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Jefffar wrote:Had it for several months allready.


Don't you love how the M16A4 has a picture of the AK-74U?
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shortstop4313 wrote:Wow, bad editting isn't limited to Palladium.


No one ever said it was. FASA was notorious for it's problems as well. Several of the other companies out there don't do so hot either.
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Yeah, most RPG companies start out (and stay) pretty small, so they don't have the cash for a professional editor or continuity checker.
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Jefffar wrote:Yeah, most RPG companies start out (and stay) pretty small, so they don't have the cash for a professional editor or continuity checker.


Or a spell checker or a grammar checker, or a fact checker.
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Or moderators.
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Jefffar wrote:Or moderators.


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Ranger wrote:Nice weapon.


I'd rather see more 20mm AMRs than yet another .50 cal.
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20 mm is over rated. In AMRs it's less acurrate and has a lesser effective range than the .50.

Now the 15.2 mm APDSFS weapon built by Steyr . . . that's a wicked toy
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ash_wednesday wrote:
Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:My..those are BIG bullets...


I take it you've never seen 20mm rounds.
Nope and I hope I don't..ever....Can we say "overkill"?


These aren't sniper rifles, they're anti-materiel rifles.
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I was watching FutureWeapons the other day, and they did a segment on the rifle I linked to.
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The Barrett M82A1 is only 3 lb heavier and proven reliability. Why didn't they just go to a .416 Barrett?
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What is "anti-material?"
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Ten Tigers wrote:What is "anti-material?"

It means it's meant to be used primarily against light vehicles and buildings rather than people.
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Pretty much - the idea is to break stuff rather than go after people (which is why the innacuracy of .50 and 20 mm rounds used in the early weapons wasn't such a big deal).

Prime targets include light armoured vehicles, radar, communications systems, parked aircraft and similar breakable stuff. One Croation model was specifically created to shoot out the ight sights on Serbian T72 tanks.

The use of match grade .50 ammunition in more recent conflicts makes them potent man killers at extreme range (official kills from more than 2 miles away).
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Ouch...it's almost like the old big-caliber 'anti-tank rifles'...only much more useful....
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Well the .50 was origionally intended as an anti-tank weapon - so was the 14.5 mm used in some Russian Machineguns and a handful of AMRs.

So far , he only purpose built AMR round that's gotten past the prototype stage is the 15.2 mm Steyr Sabot round - though it's really a small basis of issue.
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You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.
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my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

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dragon_blaze_99 wrote:my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

I'm Canadian sorry


Canadians are allowed to have guns? I thought they stopped by Germany to pick up armaments whenever they went out on maneuver.

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GhostKnight wrote:You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.


I still haven't figured out if this weapon is a high velocity, pinpoint grenade launcher or a low velocity anti-materiel weapon - it will be interesting to see how effective it becomes once development is complete.
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Jefffar wrote:
GhostKnight wrote:You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.


I still haven't figured out if this weapon is a high velocity, pinpoint grenade launcher or a low velocity anti-materiel weapon - it will be interesting to see how effective it becomes once development is complete.


Somewhat longer range and 2.5x more killing power.
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Numbers are only a part of the effeciveness score.
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GhostKnight wrote:
dragon_blaze_99 wrote:my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

I'm Canadian sorry


Canadians are allowed to have guns? I thought they stopped by Germany to pick up armaments whenever they went out on maneuver.

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