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- Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:02 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Make it large: Full Size Masters Saga Book
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Re: Make it large: Full Size Masters Saga Book
Maybe This can get accomplished... http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=101241&start=50#p2880393 The Art for the myrmidon shows a battiloid that doesn't match the other 2 modes of the mecha in question, Via some help I found the Art that matches the Tank/Transport mode. ...
- Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:06 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Errata (and or nits) with with Robotech®: The Masters Saga
- Replies: 96
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Re: Errata (and or nits) with with Robotech®: The Masters Sa
The Art for the myrmidon shows a battiloid that dosen't match the other 2 modes of the mecha in question, Via some help I found the Art that matches the Tank/Transport mode. This is the Current designs and art in the Master's Saga source book This is the Art that matches the Transport mode and Tank...
- Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:03 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: A new Robotech Rule Book
- Replies: 37
- Views: 20695
Re: A new Robotech Rule Book
If you are going to do a 'Revised Rule Book'. I would recommend having a centralized character creation for all era's. Have one or two mecha from each era in the revised rule book. Then make all the era books with the additional material. I remember suggesting this to Palladium about 8 years ago......
- Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:15 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The most beautiful women in Robotech!
- Replies: 36
- Views: 23167
Re: The most beautiful women in Robotech!
I've only watched Robotech... so I'm not gonna take the bait...Alrik Vas wrote:Actually he's winning because Macross is the best series.
- Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:53 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The most beautiful women in Robotech!
- Replies: 36
- Views: 23167
Re: The most beautiful women in Robotech!
the poll is trending correctly... Lisa was so ugly her nickname was Snaggle-face and She threw her self at a guy half-her age in hopes his head wounds from the time she nearly killed him would affect him a bad way... and luckly for her is did addle his mind so that he took to letting wash his dishes...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:02 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
given he was never made to look incompetent in any form in the series, and even the old canon had his as the one man behind every bit of amazing technology humanity deployed, i'm not sure where you get that idea.. to avoid derailing this topic... It's a debate for another topic, but its in the show...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:30 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
[ given he was never made to look incompetent in any form in the series, and even the old canon had his as the one man behind every bit of amazing technology humanity deployed, i'm not sure where you get that idea.. "So, what did you do with that stress analysis file on the retaining bulkheads...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:25 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
given he was never made to look incompetent in any form in the series, and even the old canon had his as the one man behind every bit of amazing technology humanity deployed, i'm not sure where you get that idea.. to avoid derailing this topic... It's a debate for another topic, but its in the show...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:21 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
as Shadowlogan illustrated above, the Humans knew nothing about the booby-trap system, how the properly fold the ship or use the anti-grave systems... actually the canon comics say otherwise about gravity control. The rarity of these comics makes them problematic.. Looks like a move to make Lang lo...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:41 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
It's not just "personal belief" when there is dialog and story support for the idea. I still don't see how one can prove the Master's would have knowledge of a system that wasn't installed onboard the ship when it was in their possession. a system they believe would allow a single ship to ...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:16 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
This also assumes that there were not some sort of failsafe systems in either the Zentradis mecha/ships (along the lines of the Recall Beam) or in their psychological programing (safe words or the like). We really have no idea at all how the Masters viewed the possibility of a Zentradi rebellion. C...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:16 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
actually they seem to think that's a deliberate feature so i'd guess that the master's own shield systems have a similar "generate a massive energy pulse" effect going on. presumbly they lacked the power to use it when they got to earth. (but since zor's ship had the protoculture factory ...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:06 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
personally i've interprited that series of statments from the episodes as thus: the SDF-1 originally was equipped with a version of the Shield systems the master's motherships as seen using. but when it crashed on earth the system was not one that humanity had managed to reactivate/fully rebuild by...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:11 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
Yeah, it is impossible to know. They didn't. The writers screwed up, and whatever is in the comic you mentioned was damage control that happened 20 years too late. no one's mentioned a Comic... "Prelude to Battle" is Episidoe # 43 . Though I admit I haven't watched the series in over a ye...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:18 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
Funny, but the Invid's Proto-Plex Barrier sure looks and acts an awful lot like the SDF-01's Omni-Directional Barrier too. I guess they somehow managed to kidnap Doc Lang and force him to share his "discovery"..... Most likely that how the Master's knew of its existence as well.. They wer...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:58 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
So they need a variant of the BAC with a heavy weapon. I disagree with how heavy, but your idea works for you. where is your proof to support the idea that its a variant? the RPG isn't a source for canon, the show is. The RPG is wrong, the show can't be wrong. I supplied screen shot from the actual...
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:58 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
The entire thing is bunk, though. Humans made the omni-barrier, yet the masters talk about it like it was part of the original design. Lang claims he made it, but most likely just figured out how to use a pre-existing system. this is supported by the opening dialog of episode one, which says most o...
- Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:03 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
Where are the RPG stats for these weapons mounted on the BAC? Like a most of problems in the Master's book, its is not stated because the writer didn't watch the episodes (this is a problem with each and every book published to date TBH), I just Sub the stats for the Heavy Particle beam gun off the...
- Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:48 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
What are these capital-level energy weapons the BAC mounts? the ones they use against the tri-star and other capital ships in the series, as well as use to destroy entire cities, only the Zent-Canon ships mount weapons that powerful. Master's ships are, 1 for 1, more heavily armed and armored. They...
- Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:48 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
That right there shows that A. the ASC has equipment to fight the Zentreadi on par (minimum) and B. the Masters out-class the Zentreadi even in the depleted state they are in Exactly, the problem is looking at the Bioroids as weak or underarmed. if one goes by the Canon OSM of the footage and takes...
- Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:10 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
One thought may be that the Masters, being so low on protoculture, didn't feel the need to commit their aerospace platforms, which likely have a pretty high power usage. They are generally dismissive of the human's capabilities, and if these craft were capable of dealing with large Invid and Zentra...
- Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:05 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 35213
Re: The Masters, what space combat units do they have?
Can we rename this to a topic about the ajax? I don't see much of any talk about the Master's space units... just more Ajax bashing...
- Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:09 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VFH-10 AGAC Veritech Add-ons (Fan Fiction)
- Replies: 45
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Re: VFH-10 AGAC Veritech Add-ons (Fan Fiction)
Would the AGAC be capable of carrying reflex missiles? well the hard points could carry one fighter LRM each in the RPG, so i'd say they could could carry the reflex missiles the VF-1's used against the zentreadi. not sure what the stats would be on that one though.. certainly would need to do more...
- Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:16 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Why doesn't the hover tank have a windscreen?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 15954
Re: Why doesn't the hover tank have a windscreen?
Big craters....lots of new churned-up wetland(at least until new drainage paths are established by nature). Insect breeding grounds. all highly radio-active areas, most don't even have plants growing in them until the Invid era. There is alot more unrealistic problems in Robotech i'd be worried abo...
- Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:13 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VFH-10 AGAC Veritech Add-ons (Fan Fiction)
- Replies: 45
- Views: 27206
Re: VFH-10 AGAC Veritech Add-ons (Fan Fiction)
What does this bring to the party that either the dedicated space fighter doesn't? And how does it out perform the Macross super VT? Standard Fighters lack decent combat bonuses nor auto-dodge. The Base Ajax has an Auto-dodge in every mode, compared to the limitations of the VF-1 being locked in Fi...
- Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:53 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Why doesn't the hover tank have a windscreen?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 15954
Re: Why doesn't the hover tank have a windscreen?
Pretty much, it looks cool, and after the planet has been bombarded and 90% of all life incinerated... swarms of bugs in the desolation aren't a huge issue? (maybe?) if were are going into that level or realism in the game to where we need to worry about this, then we should apply that level of real...
- Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:34 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
- Replies: 84
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Re: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
I'm curious if that's true. Design notes of the hardware depicted may have been written before the show was animated. It would make logical sense if that were the case. It would also make sense that those notes weren't followed faithfully for the purposes of dramatization. Design notes that are cre...
- Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:53 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
- Replies: 84
- Views: 47011
Re: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
Technically speaking... the show is the sole depiction of the performance of hardware.. it came first, and all other works are derivatives of that depiction.Alrik Vas wrote: The show isn't an accurate depiction of the hardware's performance.
- Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:07 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
- Replies: 84
- Views: 47011
Re: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
[Carl Johnson]Tommy? Who the **** is Tommy?![/Carl Johnson] Tommy Yune, the President of Development and creative director of Robotech.... As to why, the Ajax is a bridge too far. It's just too silly. I never found the ASC to be a compelling setting, my group only played there like three games. The...
- Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:30 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
- Replies: 84
- Views: 47011
Re: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
If maintenance logistics were really of any concern, they would't have made transformable fighters to begin with... a Jet is complex enough, must less adding in useless swept wings, arms and legs, and the systems to make those transform... putting an x-shapred manuvering system on the back of the Aj...
- Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:46 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
- Replies: 84
- Views: 47011
Re: VF-8 Logan Veritech Fighter Add-ons (Fan-Fiction)
I suggest waiting to hear his answer before the conjecture starts. Indeed. Just wanted to explain myself. The Logan was written to be poor mecha the got ker-ploded in the back ground. Like a red shirt on Star Trek. Palladium wrote what they saw on screen. He's using a logical approach to his design...
- Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:02 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
- Replies: 115
- Views: 68614
Re: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
Plus PW setting makes Space Fold Drives unreliable IIRC (though it may just be the 3G hasn't figured out how to properly Fold given the Intruders use Space Folding) so RT ships overall mobility is much less. IIRC, Robotech uses Hyper-space Fold drives... not the same ting as a simple space-fold dri...
- Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:24 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
- Replies: 115
- Views: 68614
Re: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
I believe Breetai says, "Full barrage, all cannons." This is followed by seeing his 3 mile long flag ship opening up with the business, which destroys several earth defender ships, yeah. Considering the pain zentradi craft can put out in their stats, I'm pretty sure everything is tissue p...
- Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:34 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
- Replies: 115
- Views: 68614
Re: Robotech ships versus the Three Galaxies
Yeah, but weren't the ASC ships low armor? And missiles are pretty universal in Palladium as far as range and damage. Beam weapons are what set the settings apart. Not in the Show, the ASc ships are the only ones in the show that are involved in ship to ship combat and survive. The Oberth's in the ...
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:47 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
This may help: http://chuckwalton.deviantart.com/gallery/dataweaver wrote:Huh. I had heard that they were loosely but identifiably based on the IMAI designs.
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:43 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Technically, so did Scott in the original series — at least, he did during his initial attack; I saw no indication of a pilot in the Beta to which his Alpha was docked during the descent. TBH, I haven't seen TSC in a long time, so I can't remember exactly what the "Beta" they used did... ...
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:11 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
The appearance of Betas (docked to Alphas, no less) in LLA is more problematic, as this explicitly contradicts the core RPG book's dates concerning the Beta. That said, it could be a case of the Betas as a fully separate unit from the Alphas being a much more recent development, with the 2030s havi...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:55 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
"Evolving" the Gura-Invid: I Liked the addition of the Gura-Invid... as a interesting look to the invid, and maybe even a subspecies that could find a place in invid Society. For my Robotech 2050 setting, I have the Invid Collective adopting the Gura and breeding them as shock-troopers/gu...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:24 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Out of curiosity, you have referenced issues with the new Marines book--can you elaborate a bit on why you dislike them, other than "too much like the novels"--what specifically about it being like the novels is bad? does it contradict things from "offical" cannon? I don't have ...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:01 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Except that the creator of the TSC saying that the original version takes precedence over his own creation. I think there is a fine point of debate here that is really not worthy of discussion. One side indicates that the current creative director of Robotech has assigned an order of primacy of sou...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:57 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Salvaging the Marines: While I disagree with the existence of the Marines in Robotech, at least with the idea of making them the main fighting force of the REF, We now have the REF Marines book by Irvine Jackson. not the best robotech book by most subjective views... it has elements that can be use...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:01 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Discussion of the validity of the answers Tommy gave on the FAQ and how he preforms his job as creative director needs to be in a different topic, its derailed this one enough. I based the Laws off Quotes and answers given by Tommy. I don't differentiate between Robotech and the so-called "Yun...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:40 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Missing Invid in REF Marines
- Replies: 80
- Views: 39532
Re: Missing Invid in REF Marines
for those unaware of macek's plans.. IIRC Rem becomes his own Grandfather by becoming the father of Zor. the SDF-3, as part of the timewarp involved, ends up crashing to macross island to become the SDF-1, etc.. I thought it was worse... Like Rem and Minmay have a baby... That baby is Zor... who ge...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:21 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Missing Invid in REF Marines
- Replies: 80
- Views: 39532
Re: Missing Invid in REF Marines
I like the fact that the Haydonites do the same thing. we have been discussing. The Creative director gets alot of unfair flack from a plurality of fans for this, but the plot is better than the final vision Macek had for Sentinels and Robotech as a whole... The Masters have the most advanced tech ...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:15 am
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Discussion of the validity of the answers Tommy gave on the FAQ and how he preforms his job as creative director needs to be in a different topic, its derailed this one enough. I based the Laws off Quotes and answers given by Tommy. I don't differentiate between Robotech and the so-called "Yune...
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:21 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
I was mostly running something off the cuff, to work on moving back toward the original topic of the thread. the HLS format isn't really one that needs to have much definition. I should have made it late 10's early 20's.. I think Lang could develop rudimentary AI's from the one that programs Janice-M.
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:44 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
"Short Circuit" adventure Hook: Mid-2010's- Hook: A flight of Experimental VF-6 Alpha drones are being given a trial run near the Zentradi control zone in South America. Formation is perfect and the rudimentary AI is functioning well. That is until a bolt of lightning fries one of the unit...
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:18 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
Regardless, for the purpose of writing for the RPG (which AFAICT is still technically subject to review by Yune prior to publication), what ultimately matters is what Yune's vision of Robotech is, Moreso even than whether or not it's consistent with the original shows. Acid test: propose something ...
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:23 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
- Replies: 76
- Views: 37857
Re: Expanding the RPG & the 3 Laws of Robotech
1. “Canon” is whatever HG deems it to be. Thank Goodness Tommy Yune Answered Harmony Gold's policy on how they process Canon in the Robotech.com FAQ over a decade ago. Q: What is the definitive source of events in the Robotech universe when discrepancies arise in continuity? - Anonymous A: The orig...
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:57 pm
- Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
- Topic: Which mecha is the true successor to the VF-1: Alpha or Beta
- Replies: 158
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Re: Which mecha is the true successor to the VF-1: Alpha or
Alrik Vas wrote:Always hated the Logan.
I'm curious about this Gamma fighter, though. Where do they talk about that?
This: http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j16/C ... murnbi.jpg ignore the file name, IDK where they picked that name from...