What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
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What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
What branch would everyone choose (or have chosen for those who are already enlisted) and what MOS would you select (or have selected)?
I was in the Marine Corp (Semper Misfit). Started as 0331 (Infantry: Heavy) and then 0321 (Force Recon).
Just thought this may be an interresting topic.
I was in the Marine Corp (Semper Misfit). Started as 0331 (Infantry: Heavy) and then 0321 (Force Recon).
Just thought this may be an interresting topic.
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If I were to choose a service it would be Army. When I was eighteen I would have wanted to be 18B: Special Forces Weapons Sergeant. Now that I'm significantly older. I would be more likely to choose 92Y: Unit Supply Specialist as thats pretty close to what I do now in regular life.
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GreenGhost wrote:What branch would everyone choose (or have chosen for those who are already enlisted) and what MOS would you select (or have selected)?
I was in the Marine Corp (Semper Misfit). Started as 0331 (Infantry: Heavy) and then 0321 (Force Recon).
Just thought this may be an interresting topic.
I am thinking about getting a USMC commision and as I am a psychology major MOS0204 looks to be in my area of experteese.
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If I could I would have stayed as an MSG for 20 years, even at the cost of not getting married, and no personal life.
Started out as an AAV Crewman (1833), and later an MSG (8151)
If I could I would have stayed as an MSG for 20 years, even at the cost of not getting married, and no personal life.
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Here we have these choices:
Air Force
Land Force (ie Army)
Navy
Reserve branch of each.
As to which I would choose and my MOS, with my Master's Degree in History nearing completion I tried to get a job in the policy division of the Department of National Defence (or equivalent of the Pentagon) but my French wasn't good enough.
Air Force
Land Force (ie Army)
Navy
Reserve branch of each.
As to which I would choose and my MOS, with my Master's Degree in History nearing completion I tried to get a job in the policy division of the Department of National Defence (or equivalent of the Pentagon) but my French wasn't good enough.
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I was a Marine (still am in many minds) but if I had my choice of MOS it would be something involving flight school. There's just somethin to be said for "mach 2 with your hair on fire". Ideal assignment would probably have been a Harrier wing but anything in the air would work.
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demos606 wrote:I was a Marine (still am in many minds) but if I had my choice of MOS it would be something involving flight school. There's just somethin to be said for "mach 2 with your hair on fire". Ideal assignment would probably have been a Harrier wing but anything in the air would work.
What was your MOS when you were in?
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Can anyone else in here have a similar or just as werid position in the military or know of someone who does
One of my relatives was once a member of the 22nd SAS regiment. he did an intelligence tour of Northern Ireland.
Most people would consider going down to the pubs( Bars to the Americans) to be quite fun. It's not fun when you have to drink enough to not stand out, yet not enough to keep you from overhearing IRA members planning terrorist acts. What makes it really fun is the fact that any of the other patrons would gladly cut your head off.
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Rockwolf66 wrote:Most people would consider going down to the pubs( Bars to the Americans) to be quite fun. It's not fun when you have to drink enough to not stand out, yet not enough to keep you from overhearing IRA members planning terrorist acts. What makes it really fun is the fact that any of the other patrons would gladly cut your head off.
How about going out to the bar and having to worry about someone tossing a grenade your way, or a car bomb going off? (Bogota, Colombia)
Or sombody showing up to rob everyone at gunpoint? (Dar es Salaam, Tanzania)
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Alejandro wrote:Here's the benefits: You and your fellow Marines will all be very close. You get the best uniform of all the services. When you're out, you tell people you were a Marine and they think that you're some kind of badass.
Here's the cons: Your service has NO MONEY!! You have NO MONEY!! You & your buddies will be very close because your service and commands often treat you like bad children who deserve to be punished even if you haven't done anything. When you're out, if you tell someone you were a Marine, they will want to tell you all about their kid who's in the Army/Navy/Marines/Air Force and ask if you know them....as if we're somehow psychic beacons.
Let’s not forget you stand a good chance of spending a significant portion of your Marine Corps career overseas.
Of course the above various upon the MOS, and duty stations to which you’re assigned.
Oh and for the record you can save money while in the Fleet Marine Corps, I did it. Then again I spent half my time in the fleet in 29 Palms and the other half on UDP to Okinawa.
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Uncle Misfit wrote:Or you could serve ten years and only leave the continental U. S. to do TCATs off the east coast...
Yep, that must have been boring.
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I'm on a forum with a smilie for that.
Still you could have been in a worse place. You could be getting sniped and bombed daily by foriegn insurgents in a hot and nasty place.
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LA is not that bad as I have walked through places with a higher overall crime rate ( assault in particular) wearing an expensive suede duster.
I ment Here. The photo was taken about 2005.
I ment Here. The photo was taken about 2005.
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GreenGhost wrote:What branch would everyone choose (or have chosen for those who are already enlisted) and what MOS would you select (or have selected)?
I was in the Marine Corp (Semper Misfit). Started as 0331 (Infantry: Heavy) and then 0321 (Force Recon).
Just thought this may be an interresting topic.
I originally enlisted as a 93D (Air Traffic Control Systems and Subsystems Repairer), and then changed my MOS (because having to work with vacuum tubes made me feel like a mad scientist) to 68N (Avionics Mechanic). I spent a little over 8 years enlisted, and when I made E6/SSG I took a good hard look at my peers and realized it would probably be another 6 to 7 years to make E7 in that field. So, I applied for flight school and got picked up so now I'm a helicopter pilot for the army.
If I knew then what I know now I would've done it differently. I would have applied for flight school in high school. What's that? Yeah...the army still has the high school to flight school program. No, it's not easy to get picked up straight out of high school...but it is possible. I believe it's the only program left in the military where you can get commissioned as an officer (once you make CW2 you'll get your commission...as a WO1 you're appointed) without any college education whatsoever.
If your'e interested, research it before you talk to a recruiter.
Warrant Officer Career Center
If you go to a recruiter, be prepared that they'll probably tell you that you can't do it because of any number if made up reasons such as:
- You can't do that anymore.
- You have to be in an enlisted aviation MOS first.
- They take volunteers for flight school in basic training so just take any MOS we offer you so you can go to basic and volunteer.
Now, just to clarify it...the slang term for it is "high school to flight school". But the reality is, anyone up to a certain age can apply straight off the street. There are some prerequisites, some tests you have to take, a resume, some letters of recommendation, a medical exam (flight physical) and other stuff like that.
It's not easy to get picked up...nothing in life ever is, but you'll never know unless you try.
And think about it...you can enlist in the military and get a MOS and go up through the enlisted rank making a pittance (I've been there and done that) or at the age of 18 you can be an officer in the US army flying helicopters starting off I think at just under 30K a year (base pay + BAH + flight pay + separate rations).
When I went to flight school, about a quarter of the guys I went through with had come off the street (whether it was from high school, college, prior service, etc.).
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GreenGhost wrote:I loved the M249. I miss the hell out of it.
FN-M-249 PARA
Damage:4D10+5
Weight: 15 pounds 5 ounces
Lenght:30.5 inches
Feed. 30 round M-16 magazines or 100 or 200 round disintigrating belt.
Rate of Fire: 700 to 1,000 rounds per minute.
Maximum Effective range: 800m
Dealer Price: $5.457
Note: The stats I have posted are mostly from FNH USA or from a dealer of M-249's. In looking at the effective range of the M-249 PARA; it shows how wrong someone was in there statement that the 5.56X45mm round was a short ranged cartrige. I am Also working on Standard Compendium of Contemporary weapons stats for the weapon. Then again I let my Rifts group use one against vampires. It got really ugly really fast. Still I hope your Recon character enjoys this.
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Alejandro wrote:I despised the 249. Damn thing was jam-tastic.
I did adore the 240G, though.
I found the M-240G to be a log. then again I was 5'8" and 130 at the time. What makes things worse is that my sister has really scary accuracy with the British L7 GPMG( FN-MAG/ M-240).
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Alejandro wrote:GreenGhost wrote:Maintenance is the key.
The key is not getting a crap gun. Maintenance only helps keep a good gun working, it does not make a bad gun start working.
I agree, but as a former heavy gunner I can tell you that the SAWS is only as crappy as the user's maintenance and ability. Like I said I never had a problem except for two misfires in two years. I never had a jam. If you don't like it that's cool, but as for labeling a weapon's capabilities and abilities as inferior simply because you don't like it doesn't make any sense. Is the SAWS the best out there- not at all, but I can tell you that the weapon came through for me every time, except for those two misfires I never had a problem with it and the only people who did (that I personally know) had issues with keeping the weapon ready and clean.
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Alejandro wrote:That gun is the size of that woman!
To be fair though, it's hard to NOT be accurate with the 240G. That gun gave me delusions of sniper school every time I got behind it. If it was a woman, I'd never leave it. Wouldn't marry it though because that would ruin the magic.....but I'd be faithful.
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As I have said before My Sister and I have both shot FN-Mag variants and she has so far kicked my butt( then again she's been shooting since I was about 3.).
As far as the M-249 goes Greenghost is right about the maintenance. That is if you get one that is not worn out. I handled one back in 1998 and it was a sweet little machinegun. The problem is that they are not being maintained well enough and those that are worn out are not being replaced. Now some officer is trying to get the CIS Ultimax 100 adopted which is a step in the wrong direction.
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Alejandro wrote:GreenGhost wrote:Alejandro wrote:GreenGhost wrote:Maintenance is the key.
The key is not getting a crap gun. Maintenance only helps keep a good gun working, it does not make a bad gun start working.
I agree, but as a former heavy gunner I can tell you that the SAWS is only as crappy as the user's maintenance and ability. Like I said I never had a problem except for two misfires in two years. I never had a jam. If you don't like it that's cool, but as for labeling a weapon's capabilities and abilities as inferior simply because you don't like it doesn't make any sense. Is the SAWS the best out there- not at all, but I can tell you that the weapon came through for me every time, except for those two misfires I never had a problem with it and the only people who did (that I personally know) had issues with keeping the weapon ready and clean.
Air Wing units are rarely issued the best weapons from the main armories for their own small ones...so we didn't exactly get the pick of the litter when it came to machineguns. We got lucky on our 240G's...but our 249 was crap. It was a lot more effort than it was worth and lugging around the 240G seemed like an infinitely more acceptable idea for me. Especially since it was the G and therefore wasn't going to be used for run & gun. We trained a lot with tripod drills, but I'll never make the claim that I was in the streets of Baghdad with a 249 jamming up a storm. All I know is everytime I fired a 249, from MCT to my other units, it jammed. A lot. So from my own experiences I developed an intense dislike of that weapon.
It sounds like you did get a crappy SAWS. Luckily mine wasn't. I remember my dad telling me about how he liked the M60, but he had come across some that were inferior to what he used in the past.
I can't blame you for not liking the M249 since you had a lot of problems with yours. If I ended up with one like yours I'd have the same opinion as you
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I loved my M-16A2 while having an occasional affair with a MK-19.
OMG could that MK-19 rock my world .
But, lord was she heavy to help tote on a forced march. As well as the mortar plates .
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sawg138 wrote:Chuck McDaniel wrote:USMC 0311.
I loved my M-16A2 while having an occasional affair with a MK-19.
OMG could that MK-19 rock my world .
But, lord was she heavy to help tote on a forced march. As well as the mortar plates .
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I prefer the M-198.
This is what I have always Truly wanted to fire! *Drools on self thinking of it*
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Honstly I have seriously thought about joining the Navy reserves as a public relations officer
I did six years in the Maines as a enlisted tank crewman and I have to say I'm down with tanks. I've heard really good things about the travel you dol as a PR zero. If I were to go back into a combat MOS it would be as a PT boat comander.
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I'd choose the Executive Branch....
My recent ex girlfriend, who was married(divorced) to a Marine, (then I latter learned it wasn't once, but twice, consecutively, to two marines from the same unit..) would constantly drop hints for me to join, because she liked the idea of dating an officer and she'd get great benefits.(yeah, because joining the military for a girl is a smart thing to do...)
I also have an uncanny ability to see through BS, which is why I don't attend church and salesmen have a real hard time of wining me over. A recruiter for the CIA once told me that to be in the CIA, one had to believe he was on the good side. And then I started to wonder why they were recruiting at a college. Most educated people would realize that the world isn't black and white. There's no true good or true evil. There's just a side. Your's and their's.
My recent ex girlfriend, who was married(divorced) to a Marine, (then I latter learned it wasn't once, but twice, consecutively, to two marines from the same unit..) would constantly drop hints for me to join, because she liked the idea of dating an officer and she'd get great benefits.(yeah, because joining the military for a girl is a smart thing to do...)
I also have an uncanny ability to see through BS, which is why I don't attend church and salesmen have a real hard time of wining me over. A recruiter for the CIA once told me that to be in the CIA, one had to believe he was on the good side. And then I started to wonder why they were recruiting at a college. Most educated people would realize that the world isn't black and white. There's no true good or true evil. There's just a side. Your's and their's.
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
Peacebringer wrote:I'd choose the Executive Branch....
My recent ex girlfriend, who was married(divorced) to a Marine, (then I latter learned it wasn't once, but twice, consecutively, to two marines from the same unit..) would constantly drop hints for me to join, because she liked the idea of dating an officer and she'd get great benefits.(yeah, because joining the military for a girl is a smart thing to do...)
I also have an uncanny ability to see through BS, which is why I don't attend church and salesmen have a real hard time of wining me over. A recruiter for the CIA once told me that to be in the CIA, one had to believe he was on the good side. And then I started to wonder why they were recruiting at a college. Most educated people would realize that the world isn't black and white. There's no true good or true evil. There's just a side. Your's and their's.
I know what you mean. When I was enlisted I worked for good people and I worked for bad people. I've done good things and I've done bad things.
For the most part I agree with you... "There's just a side. Your's and their's."
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
Objecting does not make a communist. Objecting makes an objector. More capitalists object to actually fighting than communists. Communists see the civic duty in service. Capitalists like to send other people to fight their wars. Modern societies breed cowardice regardless of the economic structure used. They used to teach classes in civics, but that went away with the onset of political correctness.
And I too will defend a person's right to object on whatever grounds they desire to object.
My choice of services is easy. I was in the only intelligent branch -- the Air Force, where we send our officers in to die while the majority of the enlistedmen remain out of harm's way. (I just made the choice to have one of the only combat positions.)
And I too will defend a person's right to object on whatever grounds they desire to object.
My choice of services is easy. I was in the only intelligent branch -- the Air Force, where we send our officers in to die while the majority of the enlistedmen remain out of harm's way. (I just made the choice to have one of the only combat positions.)
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
I have something to say,
It's better to burn out than to fade away.
There can be only one!
The branch I would choose, would be the one sturdy enough to support my mass.
Neyet commrad, actually, being a communist makes one a communists, unless you're Chinese, which makes you a capitalist.
It's better to burn out than to fade away.
There can be only one!
The branch I would choose, would be the one sturdy enough to support my mass.
Neyet commrad, actually, being a communist makes one a communists, unless you're Chinese, which makes you a capitalist.
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
I am new here, but I was jabbing back at you. All in fun, you know?Misfit KotLD wrote:You're new here, so I'll give you an explanation. I was teasing Geronimo about communists not having morals. He knows that as well. But welcome!
After further thought on the subject, if I could choose any branch of service in history or sci-fi, it would be either the Jedi Order or the Robotech Defense Force.
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
Joined the US Army at the happy age of 18 as an Infantryman...stayed in, got my degree and went to OCS and got commissioned as an Infantry Officer...14 years in so far. Go me!
Looking back over the book, they seriously need to redo the book or align it more with the rest of the Megaverse...there is so much more stuff available these days that Recon could really do with...the rest of the megaverse as well, such as realistic damage ratings for arty, better command and control systems, ballistic computers, armored vehicles, niftiness like that...
but I digress...
I'm a grunt and damn proud of it in case you couldn't tell by the sig.
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Looking back over the book, they seriously need to redo the book or align it more with the rest of the Megaverse...there is so much more stuff available these days that Recon could really do with...the rest of the megaverse as well, such as realistic damage ratings for arty, better command and control systems, ballistic computers, armored vehicles, niftiness like that...
but I digress...
I'm a grunt and damn proud of it in case you couldn't tell by the sig.
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Alejandro wrote:Here's the cons: Your service has NO MONEY!! You have NO MONEY!! You & your buddies will be very close because your service and commands often treat you like bad children who deserve to be punished even if you haven't done anything. When you're out, if you tell someone you were a Marine, they will want to tell you all about their kid who's in the Army/Navy/Marines/Air Force and ask if you know them....as if we're somehow psychic beacons.
Brother, that's why I didn't join the Marines
Actually, I didn't join the Marines because they said it would take them a week to get me out of town. The Legion was giving some crap about visiting the French Embassy...huh???.
The Army on the hand said they could have me on a bus in a day. Hello Fort Benning...
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A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box - Frederick Douglass
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Any system in which the most populated areas have the most political power, creates an incentive for areas that want power to increase their population - Killer Cyborg
A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box - Frederick Douglass
I am a firm believer that men with guns can solve any problem - Inscriptus
Any system in which the most populated areas have the most political power, creates an incentive for areas that want power to increase their population - Killer Cyborg
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Re: What Branch Would You Choose & Why?
Misfit KotLD wrote:RDF is cool (and WAY better named than the UN Spacy) but I couldn't do the Jedi thing. Force powers are cool and all, but no women!?
Actually, it wasn't until the prequels that the idea of Jedi as monks happened and we all know that those were just bogus!
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