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Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:42 pm
by AlanGunhouse
If Vampires are nocturnal supernatural predators who hunt for blood, why do they not level have Night Vision on their list of natural abilities? They probably should also have a keen sense of smell, but no night vision is senseless.

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm
by Grazzik
WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:38 pm
by AlanGunhouse
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities
I assume you mean Revised edition, I currently only have the originals. How good is "excellent"?

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:45 pm
by Grazzik
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:38 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities
I assume you mean Revised edition, I currently only have the originals. How good is "excellent"?
Yes, 1600ft in total darkness, no ambient light required. Vampires were substantially changed in many ways in the revised version. It can be confusing if you don't specify which book you are using - the original WB1, the revised WB1, the Vampire Sourcebook or any of the other PB books you may use that stat out vampires.

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:20 pm
by AlanGunhouse
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:45 pm
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:38 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities
I assume you mean Revised edition, I currently only have the originals. How good is "excellent"?
Yes, 1600ft in total darkness, no ambient light required. Vampires were substantially changed in many ways in the revised version. It can be confusing if you don't specify which book you are using - the original WB1, the revised WB1, the Vampire Sourcebook or any of the other PB books you may use that stat out vampires.
Thank you. Simplifies things.

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:17 pm
by Warshield73
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:20 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:45 pm
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:38 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities
I assume you mean Revised edition, I currently only have the originals. How good is "excellent"?
Yes, 1600ft in total darkness, no ambient light required. Vampires were substantially changed in many ways in the revised version. It can be confusing if you don't specify which book you are using - the original WB1, the revised WB1, the Vampire Sourcebook or any of the other PB books you may use that stat out vampires.
Thank you. Simplifies things.
In the Original WB1 Vampire Kingdom Pg. 26, first column under "Abilities Natural to all vampires" the second ability is nightvisiion. The next ability is smell blood. It is also mention, although without specific range, on pages 14 and 15 under the natural abilities of the master. secondary, and wild vampires.

Re: Vampires: Nocturnal Predators

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:55 am
by AlanGunhouse
Warshield73 wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:17 pm
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:20 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:45 pm
AlanGunhouse wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:38 pm
Grazzik wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:26 pm WB1r pg 27 right side of the page under "Nightvision"... vampires have excellent nightvision capabilities
I assume you mean Revised edition, I currently only have the originals. How good is "excellent"?
Yes, 1600ft in total darkness, no ambient light required. Vampires were substantially changed in many ways in the revised version. It can be confusing if you don't specify which book you are using - the original WB1, the revised WB1, the Vampire Sourcebook or any of the other PB books you may use that stat out vampires.
Thank you. Simplifies things.
In the Original WB1 Vampire Kingdom Pg. 26, first column under "Abilities Natural to all vampires" the second ability is nightvisiion. The next ability is smell blood. It is also mention, although without specific range, on pages 14 and 15 under the natural abilities of the master. secondary, and wild vampires.
Ah, did not read far enough it seems.

My real question was about Nightbane Wampyrs and how many of the natural vampire abilities they share (or lack).