Re: Boomers: Chaos Earth Revisited
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:20 am
I would be interested to see where you go with this. I've been slowly working on a reset of Chaos Earth/Rifts myself, so I might steal some of your idea's.
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RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:The rules need to be rewritten to better illustrate the focus of the setting. This is a game about survival and rescue and there are no rules for survival and rescue, only for fighting monsters.
WildWalker wrote:Kagashi wrote:I dont see the Air Force being rolled into the Army, even thru the unlikely event drones completely replace manned aircraft. The Air Force Space Command would be running full throttle when man starts building the orbital space stations. Yep. Any US based space fleet would be Air Force running it (or even Space Command becoming its own service...which by the time we would have no kidding ships would be a more likely event). Think Stargate vs Star Trek. At first, you might think a space base force would be patterned after the Navy cause they have ships, but space falls under the jurisdiction of the Air Force and any space based fleet would have Air Force roots. No, I think the Air Force would have an even more active role in the years prior to Chaos Earth than they do now.
Now, dont get me wrong, drones have their advantages over manned aircraft and would totally be utilized, but no DoD general/admiral worth his salt would suddenly hand over the role of air power to the Army as a result of no longer needing pilots in the cockpit; the same as it would be equally ridiculous to place ground forces under the command of an Air Force general. Both services think a very specific way for a reason. To throw one into the other for any reason would severely handicap the capability due to the doctrine studied by each respective service.
Hi Kagashi!
I've seen arguments for both but the challenges of space or more like the challenges the Navy faces than anything else. As for the issue with differences in thinking, it really depends on how you are utilizing the Air Force. Strategically speaking a separate Air Force has caused as many problems as it has solved. Drones can right now out perform all but the most advanced air combat systems and drones are getting better. Manned air combat system have reached the limits of their pilots. Technological advancement in some flight systems have already outstripped the physical capabilities of all but the best pilots... and some systems are better than that. That leaves the problem of security (a Terminator scenario or electronic hacking) and that would be solvable or not based on the technology... not the service in charge of it.
I actually see air power as being split based on how it is used. Over water, deep water and space are Navy domains and they have a strong and growing stronger tradition of naval aviation to back this. Over land air superiority, close tactical support and logistical support (heavy lift) is Army.
Biggest reason to split it, and to keep it split, is political. 80 years can fix that.
WildWalker
Dustin Fireblade wrote:Good question. However keep in mind that there were decades of peace, and then a new "Cold War" and arms race. Based on that I'm thinking the Glitter Boy was designed to be more like a "final word" in MD technology, attempting to force other nations to waste time and resources in a attempt to reach the same level. Remember only a dozen or so nations actually had MD tech, and most of those were friendly to the US (Russia and China being the exceptions)
I would guess nations like Russia and China would take a 'GAW' approach and retrofit many of their combat vehicles with MD plating, and carry MD ammo or light MD weapons to bootstrap their military power, until better designed MD units came on line.
Now, I believe a couple of the "Sovietski" combat vehicles are pre-rifts designed, and they are good ones to. Can't recall if any of the Sovietski borg designs are pre-rifts, but we know this was their focus pre-rifts, so some sort of MD borg infantry wouldn't be out of the question.
The China 2 book has at least one Geofront designed PA that is specifically designed to counter the Glitter Boy, at least according to its fluff. There might be other as well. There are also some enhanced ballistic weapons there that might be pre-rifts too. (sorry can't recall for sure and don't have the book in front of me). If that's the case, then those plus thousands of MD plated retro-fitted tanks could really boost the Chinese military.
Those would, I think, be the likely expected opponents for the Glitter Boys. The GB leapfrogged the US military ahead of everyone else, using quality over quantity.
WildWalker wrote:
To me that means that light MDC armor was relatively common and that MDC capable weapons heavy weapons were as well.
WildWalker wrote:
Dustin, I know what "canon" is. I just happen to disagree.