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Unread postPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:20 am
  

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Hey folks,

I have a question regarding the Mind Block psionic power. In this thread I'm going to use the wording from the BtS rulebook, but I think the wording from Rifts is pretty much the same (plus, my games take place in an SDC setting, not Rifts).

"A Mind Block will prevent penetration of Telepathy, Thought-Reading, Empathy, Hypnotic Suggestion, and Empathic Transmission... Adds a bonus of +1 to save vs psychic and mental attacks."

So, my understanding is that the +1 applies to things like Mind Bolt, Mind Wipe, etc, however the powers listed above are all *automatic* saves. Is this correct?


Also, regarding the Multiple Image spell from Rifts, it says it creates three images, that each must be penetrated by silver to destroy it and that the mage gets +2 Initiative, +2 Dodge and +1 Strike. I assume that those bonuses are the *only* game mechanic for it? ie when you hit, you don't have to make a roll to see if you hit an image or the real mage, etc?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:18 pm
  

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There is no specific mechanism for how a character can tell a real image from a false image.
Some believe that it's easy to tell, and that the bonuses are the only practical effect of the spell.
Others (myself included) believe that the spell is the Palladium version of D&D's Mirror Image spell.
A common way for D&D games to handle the question of whether or not an attack hits the caster or an image IS to roll a D4.
Some people probably do it in Palladium as well, but it's not an official rule.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:11 pm
  

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Comment: Palladium Books Canon is set solely by Kevin Siembieda, either in person, or by his approval of published material.
Mindblock
Yes, it automatically prevents the listed conditions, and provides a +1 against powers that are not listed (or functionally similar)
So a power that is functionally telepathic or empathic will be blocked, other powers will get a +1 to their saves.

Multiple Image
Canonically that is the only bonus the spell provides.
There is a fairly common house rule that grants roll to see if you target the mage or an image... but that is not canon.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:22 pm
  

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eliakon wrote:
Mindblock
Yes, it automatically prevents the listed conditions, and provides a +1 against powers that are not listed (or functionally similar)
So a power that is functionally telepathic or empathic will be blocked, other powers will get a +1 to their saves.

Multiple Image
Canonically that is the only bonus the spell provides.


The spell canonically also provides multiple images of you that look and move just like you.

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There is a fairly common house rule that grants roll to see if you target the mage or an image... but that is not canon.


Yup.
Canon does not address how easy it is to tell the mage apart from the identical images, so that's left by default to the GM.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:32 am
  

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Thanks for the responses folks! :)


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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:56 am
  

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Killer Cyborg wrote:
eliakon wrote:
Mindblock
Yes, it automatically prevents the listed conditions, and provides a +1 against powers that are not listed (or functionally similar)
So a power that is functionally telepathic or empathic will be blocked, other powers will get a +1 to their saves.

Multiple Image
Canonically that is the only bonus the spell provides.


The spell canonically also provides multiple images of you that look and move just like you.

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There is a fairly common house rule that grants roll to see if you target the mage or an image... but that is not canon.


Yup.
Canon does not address how easy it is to tell the mage apart from the identical images, so that's left by default to the GM.


By default it appears to do nothing but bonuses. A GM can naturally houserule more if they wish ;)

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