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Mindworks
Mindworks Full conversion Borg__________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Null Psyborg_____________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms (psi 'Crazy' 'borg')
Ecto-Traveler____________________________ACC, yes (not likely), adventurer (psi 'Crazy')
Psynetic Crazy___________________________ACC, yes (not likely), adventurer
Psi-Bloodhound_________________________ACC, no, adventurer
Azverkan________________________________race/RCC, no,man at arms
Lycanmorph_____________________________race/RCC, no, adventurer
Seeker__________________________________race/RCC, no, adventurer
Ugakwa Explorer________________________ROCC, yes, adventurer
Srryn Cannibal__________________________race/RCC, no, man at arms
C'ro Demon Mage_______________________NCC
Gene-Splicers___________________________NCC

England
Dryad___________________________________MCC, yes, magic (herb mage)
Scathach________________________________MCC, yes, magic (item maker)
Millennium Druid________________________GMCC, yes, magic
Ching-Ku_______________________________race/DCC, yes, magic
Earth Child______________________________RCC, no, magic
Star Child_______________________________RCC, no, magic
Dabuggh________________________________race/RCC. no, adventurer
Manztaz Sectle__________________________race/RCC, no, adventurer
Cernum Mystic__________________________race/RMCC, no, magic
Temporal Wizard________________________MCC, yes, magic (time mage)
Temporal Warrior_______________________MCC, yes, man at arms
Temporal Raider________________________race/RCC, no, magic
Nexus Knight___________________________Mod (of man at arms classes)
Knight__________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Royal Knight____________________________OCC, yes, man at arms

Juicer Uprising
Hyperion_______________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Titan___________________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Phaeton________________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Mega___________________________________MACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Delphi__________________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms (psi MOM juicer)
CS______________________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Psycho-Stalker__________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Dragon_________________________________MACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
Murder-Wraith__________________________NCC
Splugorth_______________________________MACC, no, man at arms
J Gladiator______________________________ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
J Assassin______________________________ ACC, yes (not likely), man at arms
J Scout__________________________________ACC, yes (not likely), adventurer
Wannabe_______________________________ OCC, yes, adventurer
The Gambler____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Techno-Zombie_________________________NCC
Newcomers_____________________________robot char class, no
Vallax__________________________________race
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Rifts China 2
[this classes do not match 1:1 to the rest of Megaverse's classes due stupidness of fiddling with the definitions of ISP, PPE , and Chi. The changed definitions only apply with in Rifts china]
Jian Shih_________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Chun Tzu________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms/scholar
Nei Chia Wu Shih________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Wai Chia Wu Shih________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Chi-Gung Seng Ren______________________PCC, no, man at arms
Soothsayer______________________________PCC, no, adventurer
Spirit Host______________________________GMCC, no, man at arms
Blind Mystic_____________________________PCC, no, man at arms
Fu Yao Da Chia__________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Demon & Dead Slaver____________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Goblin Wrangler_________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Enlightened Demon______________________ROCC, yes (back to being a normal demon), adventurer
Chi Warrior______________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Chi-Commando_________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Geofront Mili.Specialist__________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Geofront Scout/Ranger__________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Technical/Communications Officer______OCC, yes, man at arms (RAMF)
Whack Job Scientist_____________________ACC, yes, adventurer (scientist)
Assault Geo-Borg_______________________ACC, yes, man at arms
Lion Geo-Borg__________________________ACC, yes, man at arms
Lighting Warriors_______________________ACC, yes, man at arms (crazies)
Metal Warriors__________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Shadow Warrior_________________________OCC, yes, Man at arms (agent/assassin)
Gun Master_____________________________OCC, yes, man at arms

Naruni Wave 2
Molock_________________________________race
Molock Enforcer________________________ROCC, yes, man at arms (OC)

Vampire Kingdoms
[this is not Vamp.Kingdom revised]
Master Vamp___________________________NCC
secondary Vamp________________________NCC
wild Vamp______________________________NCC

Hades Pits of Hell
(no new classes)

Systems Failure
Egghead______________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (scientist/geek)
Exterminator__________________________OCC, yes, man at arms (militia)
Freebooter____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Grease Monkey________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Peacekeeper___________________________OCC, yes, man at arms (militia)
Sawbones_____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (healer)
Splatterpunk__________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (OC)
Survivalist_____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (militia)
NORAD Psychic________________________PCC, no, adventurer
NORAD Splicer________________________ACC, no, man at arms
Wacko________________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
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Except for 2 of the rifters (which are hiding from me) I am done with the books that I am going to do/have.
I will be updating this as I get new books.
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:It is the warlock's nature that put them into the class they are in, not any choice they made.
The rules about changing the class of the char is about when a char chooses to change. The only reasons that a warlock would change their class is a lost of faith (which they would loose their powers) or the granted powers are withdrawn.

So the only time they would get a new class was when they are no longer a warlock.


That would be your opinion though, that's certainly not canon to the rules nor does it make any particular sense. There's no reason you'd lose your connection to the elements if you decided to become say a Thief, or even a Diabolist. You still have the connection you're just learning something else instead of strengthening that connection. There are even NPC in the books that have Warlock as one of their OCC classes (one in the Pantheons book for example, one of the pretend gods who started as a mega-powerful Warlock and learned more to augment that when he found it lacking).
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:It is the warlock's nature that put them into the class they are in, not any choice they made.
The rules about changing the class of the char is about when a char chooses to change. The only reasons that a warlock would change their class is a lost of faith (which they would loose their powers) or the granted powers are withdrawn.

So the only time they would get a new class was when they are no longer a warlock.


That would be your opinion though, that's certainly not canon to the rules nor does it make any particular sense. There's no reason you'd lose your connection to the elements if you decided to become say a Thief, or even a Diabolist. You still have the connection you're just learning something else instead of strengthening that connection. There are even NPC in the books that have Warlock as one of their OCC classes (one in the Pantheons book for example, one of the pretend gods who started as a mega-powerful Warlock and learned more to augment that when he found it lacking).


As per canon, they would become a "Half-Wazard" if they retained their magic casting abilities.

And I have already argued this.
The difference in what you are saying and what I am saying is that you are looking at the game mechanics POV with a 'is it possible via the rules?" outlook, while I am looking from the POV of the chars themselves and coming from the why's and where-for's they would they make a change of class. As in"why do I want to change what I am?"
Between us two this is what causes what we disagree about things the most, what POV we are looking at the situation. The roll vs role playing.
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Rifter 9.5 suplemental
The Tourist___________________________________NCC/mod

Rifter 52 suplemental

Weapons Expert_____________________OCC, yes, adventurer/man at arms (builder) (conversion of a power cat.)
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Rifter 59
(no new classes)

Lemuria
Ichthylean___________________________race
Ichthylean male_____________________ROCC, yes, adventurer
Ichthylean Female___________________ROCC, yes, adventurer
Junk Crab___________________________race/RCC, no, adventurer
Lemurian___________________________race
Meran______________________________race
Birdman Warrior____________________ROCC, yes, man at arms
Oceanic Guardsman________________RPCC, no, man at arms
Sea Sentinel________________________RPCC, no, Man at arms
Serpent Hunter_____________________ROCC, yes, man at arms/Magic
Lemurian Scout_____________________ROCC, yes, adventurer
Lemurian Psychic___________________RPCC, no, adventurer

Rifts BlackMarket
Black Market Banker_________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Case Man___________________________ OCC, yes, adventurer (courier)
Con Artist___________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Enforcer_____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (not quite a man-at-arms)
Expediter____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Information Broker___________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Merchant____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Raider_______________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (militia)
Refurbisher__________________________OCC, yes, adventurer (builder)
Rift Runner__________________________MCC, yes, magic (courier)
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Well Thers still Rifts Merc Adventure Sourcebook.
I like to see ther OCC.
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Rifts: Merctown
(No New Classes)
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Rifts Adv. Sourcebook Mercenary Adventures
Combat mage____________________________MCC, yes, magic (warrior mage)
Cold-Blooded____________________________MACC/NCC, no, man at arms (cursed warrior)
Gladiator_________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms/adventurer (entertainer)
*Psi Gladiator_____________________________PCC, no, man at arms/adventurer (entertainer)
*tech enhanced Gladiator__________________ACC, yes, man at arms/adventurer (entertainer)
*magic enhancedGladiator_________________MACC, maybe, man at arms/adventurer (entertainer)
Magebane_________________________________MCC, no/yes, man at arms (entertainer)
Manhunter________________________________OCC, no/yes, man at arms (hunter/killer)
Paratrooper_______________________________OCC, yes, man at arms (covert ops)
Tin-Soldier________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
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Triax 2
Luftwaffe Cyborg Combat Pilot______________ACC, yes, man at arms

SoT book 6: Final Siege
Chatterlings________________________race w/racial skills
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Based on what I see here we could use this to lump things together now that it is completely broken down.

So you choose your race IE Human, D-Bee True atlantian. etc. Roll stats put down racial skills.
Then you choose racial or Man at Arms or Adventurer class- Basically pic your profession. Magic based etc. Common skills and powers will be added.
Then you choose specific basically an MOS. Choose your specific flavor of class. IE What makes your class unique.

For example. A coalition Officer

Race human. Role stats.

Choose Men-at arms. Put in abilities that are common to all Men at Arms

Choose your MOS put in the stuff that makes your character unique.
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Rifter 60
Mystic Soldier___________________________MCC, yes, man at arms
Techo-Wizard Robot Pilot_______________ MCC, yes, man at arms
Faeriekin________________________________Race
Ashen Hunters__________________________ Race
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Rifter 61
Atlantean Archons _______________________MACC, yes, adventuer
Atlantean Blade Master___________________MACC, yes, man at arms
Dread Wraith_____________________________race
ATB animals are all races.
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Vampire Kingdoms Revised
Deluded Vampire_______________________RCC, no (Only if they relize they are a vamp), adventurer
Hero Vampire__________________________RCC, no (only if they give into their nature), adventrue/man at arms
Vampire Hunter________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
Reid's Rangers Vampire Hunter__________OCC, yes, man at arms

Rifter 36
Ellios__________________________________(is not written as a class and covers what would be multiple classes)
Excavator______________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Reconciler_____________________________PMCC, no, adventurer

Rifter 54
(no new classes)
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I don't understand the point of having an NCC class. When I roll up NPCs, I create them using the existing classes, so how is an NCC somehow different from an OCC? I am not understanding the point of it or else misunderstand the definition. As I said, i just roll up NPCs the same as I would a regular character.
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NPC classes are those classes that Are Not PC classes and Not PC 'Optional' classes.

They are listed because I am listing All the classes,and they are "A Class". But since they are not a class a player can use, they are not listed as a class a player can use.
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Rifter 62
Deathspike Infiltrator/Observer_______________________OCC (alinement restricted), yes, Adventurer
Deathspike Werewolf Agent___________________________NCC/RCC (alinement restricted), yes, Adventurer

Rifter 63
Mythic Warrior_______________________________________PMCC, yes, man at arms
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Rifter 64
Tinker Con Artist____________________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Ice Bearman_________________________________________Race
Winterserpants______________________________________DCC

Rifter 65
Dread Knight________________________________________MCC (pre-req. restricted), yes (but unikely), man-at-arms.
Spirit Caller_________________________________________MCC

Rifter 66
Ranger_____________________________________________OCC (setting restricted), maybe, adventurer/man-at-arms.
Bone Merchant_____________________________________NCC

Rifter 67
Criosphinx________________________________________Race
Werehyena________________________________________Race W/RCC
Werehyena________________________________________RCC, maybe, adventurer.
Yumboes_________________________________________Race w/RCC
Yumboes_________________________________________RCC, no, adventurer
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Rifter 68
Arcadian_________________________________________Race
Hellion Slayer (True Atlantean)____________________MACC, yes, magic/men at arms
Atlantean Esquire (True Atlantean)________________MACC, yes, magic/men at arms
Atlantean Warlock (True Atlantean clan restricted)_GMCC, no, Magic
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Rifter 69
(no new classes)

Rifter 70
TechnoJacker(revised)_________________________ACC, ??, Man at Arms
Freelance Aquanaut___________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Frost Mage___________________________________MCC, yes, adventurer
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Rifter 71 & 72 double issue
Deliveryman___________________________ACC, yes, man at arms
Bombarder____________________________ACC, yes, Man at Arms

Rifter 73
Triumverate Dragon____________________Dragon Race
Risinor (Dragon Stallion)________________Animal/Monster Species
Nexus Brorn____________________________Mod (char creation only)
Sweeper________________________________ACC, yes, man at arms
Dreadnaught___________________________ACC, yes, man at arms

Rifter 74
AncientWeapons Master: Specilist________Power Cat., no (power cat. can't), man at arms

Bizantium
Fisherman______________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Bizantium Marine_______________________OCCm yes, man at arms
(splits up into individual guard units for class bonuses.)
Serpent Chaser__________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
Waterchanter____________________________GCC, yes, magic
(note about Bizantium Warlocks)
Ice Bearmen_____________________________race
Sea Ghoul_______________________________(Undead)
Selkie/Faerie Seal________________________race
Winterserpens___________________________Dragon Race
(Random Sea Monster Generator)
The Iceborn_____________________________Race
Iceborm male___________________________ROCC, ??, man at arms (NPC only)
Iceborn Raider__________________________ROCC. ??, man at arms (NPC only)
Iceborn Caprtain________________________ROCC, ??, man at arms (NPC only)
Iceborn Female_________________________RCC, ??, adventurer (NPC only)
Skinbinder Female (iceborn)_____________GMCC, ??, magic (witch, NPC only)
Iceborn Sea Wit h_______________________GMCC, ??, magic (witch, NPC only)
(Necromancer reprint)
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Rifter 75
(no new classes)

Rifts Northern Gun 1
NG Bush Pilot_________________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
NG LPO (Loss Prevention Officer)______________OCC, yes, man at arms
Monster Responder___________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
NG Police Officer_____________________________OCC, yes, man at arms
NG Robot Control_____________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
NG Sales Rep_________________________________OCC, yes, adventurer

Rifts Northern Gun 2
Robo-Gladiator_______________________________OCC, yes, adventurer
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Rifter 76
Tempest____________________________________Mod, no, man at arms


Rifter 77
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RDB 15: Secrets of the Atlanteans (hot wash listings, might be changed later)
True Atlantean_______________________________Race
Tattooed Defender___________________________RCC, yes/no, man-at-arms
Tattooed Monster Hunter rev._________________RCC (clan restricted), yes/no, man-at-arms
Atlantean Nomad rev._________________________RCC, yes, Adventure or man-at-arms depending.
Tattooed Undead Slayer_______________________RCC, yes/no, man-at-arms.
Tattooed Voyager_____________________________RCC, yes/no, adventurer

Sunaj Assassin_______________________________RCC (clan restricted), yes/no, Man-at-arms
Sunja Shadow Mage__________________________RCC (clan restricted), yes/no, Magic
Sunja Shadow Assassin_______________________RCC (clan restricted), yes/no, Magic & Man-at-arms.

AtlanteanCrystal Mage________________________RCC, yes, magic
Atlantean Stone Master rev.___________________RCC, yes, magic
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Re: Tearing off the Veil of Bad Editing

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This is a fantastic list! Thank you for breaking them all apart like this, it also makes understanding the whole Race/Occ/Rcc/Pcc stuff a lot easier for new players!
Also for someone who hasn't played Rifts in over a decade and is suddenly prepping to GM again. (What did I get myself into XD)
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