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Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:25 pm
  

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So I just found out that Palladium is releasing an Hardcover AtB 2nd Edition book containing "the original AtB sourcebook and Yucatan Adventures".

I'm not sure how I feel that they are including the original material instead of an updated version that's compatible with 2nd Edition. On the one hand it'll be nice to have a hardcover book, but on the other I just don't see the value of adding the old material.

What do you all think?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:40 pm
  

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It's the ATB RPG, just with added material from books that are not even that compatible. I have all the TMNT sourcebooks and the ATB RPG book already and have no desire to buy the hardcover. But, yeah, updated versions of the books would be preferable to just copying and pasting them into the hradcover in hopes of stirring up interest.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:21 am
  

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I share the same "What the frak?" At the inclusion in this way.

That said ATB is my favorite game. I've got 4 or 5 copies of the soft cover. This one I might actually go out of pocket to have the hard cover on it. Even with the 'bonus material' being ... strange.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 am
  

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There is so much from the original AtB game already copied into the new one that including the old book is pointless. I have been trying to decide which of these new hardcovers to splash out on, and had decided that AtB would be one of them, but the inclusion of this doubled up and/or useless information has altered my decision and now I won't be buying it. Shame they didn't just do a basic hardcover, or perhaps add some "official new animal templates!" or something from the Rifter.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:17 pm
  

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They could have added 30+ pages of color illustrations like they did with the Rifts books. That would have actually made me want to buy it.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:53 pm
  

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Stone Gargoyle wrote:
They could have added 30+ pages of color illustrations like they did with the Rifts books. That would have actually made me want to buy it.


That would have been quite an investment for a game that has more-or-less fallen to the side. Including the Yucatan material doesn't really cost then anything.

Soldier of Od wrote:
Shame they didn't just do a basic hardcover, or perhaps add some "official new animal templates!" or something from the Rifter.


Looking back at the old Rifter Submission Guidelines, it probably wouldn't have cost them much (if anything) to include that material, which really makes you scratch your head as to why they didn't tap that material.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:21 am
  

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Comment: 24 was the start... We are Legion.
Palladium retains rights to their cover and art work and what not. It wouldn't cost them anything to include old artwork.

They reuse old artwork all the time.

What they're doing is just bizarre. They're including material they KNOW to be out of date, in a more up to date book.

It's not like they're even redoing an 'old' book, alone. (Like the RMB) they're reprinting a book with newer (Newest) Material for the game... with included, old material that is made useless by the new material.. they're publishing it with.

So for me that's just... *Hand wave* ... Meh.. dumb but.. won't hurt me.

The 'draw' is the Hardcover of the book I love.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:41 pm
  

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I hope to get the new hardcover even though I do have the other books already. That said, I don't understand the inclusion of those books either, especially the original AtB. Why not Mutants of the Yucatan and Adventures in the Yucatan? Why not things from the Rifter or from Transdimensional Turtles? I don't understand but I hope this book will spark things enough interest to get the older books updated and include what can be included from TMNT.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:43 am
  

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Yeah, including all the colour covers from the original supplements would have been a nice addition. Doesn't have to be 30+ pages, but just a few to make the hardcover a little different/special. Never mind.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:38 am
  

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Is this worth getting if you don't have the physical book already? Or should I just get the regular paperback? I already have the PDF from the Bundle of Holding sale. Thanks for any thoughts anyone has on the matter.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:31 pm
  

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!REAPER! wrote:
Is this worth getting if you don't have the physical book already? Or should I just get the regular paperback? I already have the PDF from the Bundle of Holding sale. Thanks for any thoughts anyone has on the matter.

It would be a nice item to have if you've been wanting to pick up a physical copy of the book, if just to have a hardcover copy.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:48 am
  

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If Palladium spent a quarter of the time and resources into producing new material that they spend on releasing hardcover versions of old books, or special gold edition hardcovers of books, the company might actually progress somewhere. I don't want 6 copies of the same book with different covers. I want new books with different content or the old books updated to include the ridiculous amount of skills/occs/spells that are scattered throughout 30 books.


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